Wall layers dissapear when intersecting

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When 3 walls are intersecting, for some intersections wall layers disappear. I tried to solve the simple intersection from the image below (metalstud wall with regular single layer wall). I set the maximum extension for the metalstud to zero, because I don’t want the insulation to extend into the other wall, but it cannot solve the intersection. Either the outer gypsum wall board layer is lost (or the insulation layer when I moved it a few mm in a different direction), or the thick stone wall is not extending into the other stone wall anymore. This started to happened when I slightly rotated the metalstud wall away from exactly parallel to the wall with the diagonal lines hatch). When it was orthogonal it worked fine. I also had issues with a wall on an angle in a different place before, it seems to not be able to solve these intersections well. Hopefully this can be solved soon too.

Addition: Another issue with this wall that seems to occur is that no matter what I set the core insulation to (normal/core - insulation/structure/finish etc), it keeps extending into my stone facade that has the inner layer set to Core+ structure when I give the wall an extension value. That is the reason why I removed the extension value in the first place, but it’s something that shouldn’t happen, or am I doing something wrong? Changing the joint order doesn’t change anything.

@fsalla Can I still run VA2 on Rhino 7 while running VA3 on Rhino 8? The bugs are costing me so much time that I better keep working on some older projects in Rhino 7 with VA2. When I installed VA3 it automatically removed VA2 from my computer, but at the same time I’d like to help find the bugs so we can have a useful version of VA3 soon. I find the performance of VA3 generally not great, the loading times for edits in the styles properties are much longer than in VA2, which results in a lot of waiting time just for some geometry to reload. Just moving the wall from this picture takes 5-10 seconds every time.

Here’s a link to the model (same model as the previous issues): Model.3dm

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Hi @martijn.voz thanks for reporting these issue.

I don’t find this case in your model. (I can guess it, but I’m not sure). Can you point me where is it?

The problem is that the two external layers of the insulation wall (“00 Metalstud 100mm”) join with the first layer of the facade wall (00 Gevel Steens 220), so that the inner layer (PIR Isolatie) goes to meet the next layer of the facade wall. One way to solve this is to set the two wall join to “None”. But of course, this won’t provide a proper result if the walls don’t meet perpendicularly. We will study how to make this kind of join possible.

The other option is to add a new interior layer for the wall “00 Gevel Steens 220” (you can set its thickness to 0), make the middle layer of that wall style (“Binnenblad”) the Core one (and the external one (“Buitenblad”) to “Normal”), and set the middle layer of the wall “00 Metalstud 100mm” Core as well.

Yes, you can.Just take into account that files saved in Rhino 8 and VisualARQ3 won’t open in Rhino 7 and VisualARQ 2.

We will revise this slow performance when moving walls. We suspect it happens because they try to intersect with slabs, which is a new feature in VisualARQ3. I hope we can find a solution for that.

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Hi Francesc,

thanks for the reply. The place where the 3 walls intersect in a non perpendicular way is at the other end of the metal stud wall with the extension problem.

I tried your workaround with adding the extra layer, but as soon as I add that extra layer and give it thickness 0, rhino crashes and closes itself when hitting the apply button. The same happens when I make a new wall style and change just that part of the wall to the new style. It can’t handle the 0 thickness layer.