V8 Issue. Switching display mode while Detail view activating

[Screamer]

Hi All,

Faced such problem.

Activation of Detail view by double clicking makes it switch to the Shaded.
It works only once after file opening. All the other tries work properly.

Just in case, file is attached.
951.3dm (215.0 KB)

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi Screamer -

@Screamer

Activation of Detail view by double clicking makes it switch to the Shaded.
It works only once after file opening.

I’m afraid that’s not something I can reproduce with that file and description.
-wim

[Screamer]

Hi @wim ,

Well, maybe this video and SysInfo will help.

SysInfo

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-8-27 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24240.13481, Git hash:master @ b86341cde534cae6cae9bf38b1fc5368de3c5c8e)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-08-27
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-16-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 - Build 31.0.101.2115
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 12-1-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

ATTENTION:
Desktop is using the slower, less reliable integrated graphics device and probably needs a configuration change.

There is only one monitor detected, but it’s connected to the slower, integrated graphics video port.

• Recommended: Unplug the monitor and plug it into one of the video ports on this device:
  [NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000]

• Any hardware configuration or cabling changes you make will require that you restart Rhino.

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: Intel
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 - Build 31.0.101.2115
Driver Date: 11-16-2022
Driver Version: 31.0.101.2115
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\ClippingBox (4dfff1df-5f09-43ae-a044-77b115244b02)\1.0.0.0\Rhino 6\ClippingBox.rhp “ClippingBox” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\A\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\Iris\0.7.1\Iris.V7.rhp “Iris” 1.0.0.0
C:\Users\A\Scrips and plugins\V6\LayerRenameTools.rhp “Rhino.NET SDK” 0.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\DATAKIT\Rhino6_Import_x64.rhp “Datakit_to_rhino6”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoLabsTools.rhp “Rhino Labs Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24240.13481
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[Japhy]

@Screamer

ATTENTION:
Desktop is using the slower, less reliable integrated graphics device and probably needs a configuration change.

There is only one monitor detected, but it’s connected to the slower, integrated graphics video port.

• Recommended: Unplug the monitor and plug it into one of the video ports on this device:
  [NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000]

• Any hardware configuration or cabling changes you make will require that you restart Rhino.

The openGL should be on the 16gb video card, currently it’s on the 1gb.

Check your cabling, device manager as well as the graphic settings.

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[Screamer]

Hi @Japhy

Yeah, already saw it and fixed.
Unfortunately this doesn’t help with the issue above.

[Japhy]

Is this repeatable if you open up the file while Rhino is in Safe Mode? (search Rhino 8 in Safe Mode in windows start to initiate)

[stevebaer]

Does this only happen when running Revert or do you see this with Open as well?

[Screamer]

@Japhy

Is this repeatable if you open up the file while Rhino is in Safe Mode?

No. Safe mode doesn’t repeat this issue.

@stevebaer

Open as well?

Yes, Open makes the same result.

Ok. I tried to get rid of almost all of non-Rhino plugins.
Updated Nvidia drivers.
Still same result. Switching to Shaded when clicking a Detail.

The lates SysInfo below:

SysInfo

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-9-3 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24247.13001, Git hash:master @ c6461da0b1385d9760c58910e329a3e4a6297c06)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-09-03
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 7-23-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.86
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-16-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-23-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5286
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\DATAKIT\Rhino6_Import_x64.rhp “Datakit_to_rhino6”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi Screamer -

@Screamer

Still same result. Switching to Shaded when clicking a Detail.

With the non-Rhino plug-ins disabled, can you make a new file from a factory-default template, add a layout with a detail, and reproduce that behavior in that new file? Or is this behavior isolated to that specific file?
-wim

[Screamer]

Hi @wim ,

I don’t know why, but I still have the issue.

SysInfo

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-9-3 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24247.13001, Git hash:master @ c6461da0b1385d9760c58910e329a3e4a6297c06)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-09-03
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000 (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 7-23-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.86
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-16-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-23-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5286
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\DATAKIT\Rhino6_Import_x64.rhp “Datakit_to_rhino6”

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24247.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[mary (Mary Ann Fugier)]

Hi @sysinfo,
I can repeat the issue.
I will get it logged for the developers.
I thought I was the only one.

Thanks,
Mary Ann Fugier

[Trav (Travis Serio)]

We also stumbled upon this yesterday and I was able to patch it up this morning.

https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-83673