Hello there,
Recently I’ve encountered a bug when saving a file I’ve created and have been working on for a while. After saving, I get a Pop-Up which alerts me that the file is now read only and has to be saved again to save any changes.
Most of the time this happened there was only one instance of rhino running, also I’ve been working in the same version. Any ideas why this might be happening?
Btw I cant legally share the file.
Greetings
Hi Felix -
Is this something that you can reproduce with a new file and a simple box?
-wim
Are you saving this to the cloud via dropbox, onedrive or something similar? Or is it on the local SSD? I had some similar issues some years ago when we started using Dropbox. I understood it as Rhino saw the file as locked just after saving, since it hadn’t been released by the cloud synchronization software (or something like that) I think McNeel added a small magic (a delay to compensate for this maybe), but I am not sure. We have not had any issues with using Dropbox since then. So a bit more information on your process, file size, services etc would probably help in finding the solution for you.
I’m saving directly to Onedrive, and the last time I saved I wasn’t connected to the internet.
The file is therefore saved locally and was uploaded to the cloud when I reconnected.
The file size is around 684 MB.
So far I could’t reproduce it.
Hi Felix -
That makes it close to impossible to debug.
Please post the output of the Rhino SystemInfo command, perhaps that shows something…
-wim
Can you try to disconnect the pc (unplug or turn off wifi on the computer) and save again?
Just to see if you can recreate the situation? If this happened when you saved a file you had saved before, then just try to do that. But if you saved a new file then you might need to import the geometry into a new file and then save that file as a new test file.
I did that when I tried to reproduce the issue. It seems like it occurs at random, its not a persistent issue. If it happens again I’ll share it
Rhino 8 SR11 2024-9-10 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24254.15001, Git hash:master @ d3c11108eae09fadc146928ba51b9b182a05303f)
License type: Educational, build 2024-09-10
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.0
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [96% battery remaining]
Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 11-30-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.30
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 11-30-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.30
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 8-7-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 11-30-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.4630
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\fquat\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\XNurbs (80be33b0-13b2-4ac4-9c77-03829214f9e9)\6.1.1.119\XNurbsRhino7.rhp “XNurbs”
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Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”
I’ve been getting this a lot recently
Hi Miles -
Is there any pattern to this behavior?
-wim
hi @wim , it seems to happen after a while working on a file. A few SR’s ago it started happening and has continued, its quite random tbh. I save to my laptop locally, which is backed up with our Microsoft business package which saves to OneDrive automatically. Running Windows 11-system info below-
Rhino 8 SR11 2024-9-10 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24254.15001, Git hash:master @ d3c11108eae09fadc146928ba51b9b182a05303f)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-09-10
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.0
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 9-5-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 561.09
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 9-5-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 561.09
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-5-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6109
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16376 MB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino8.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.4.1.0
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C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\BlockEditNew.rhp “BlockEdit” 1.0.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Users\mdexter\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\PanelingTools\2024.8.20.677\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24254.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”