Trying to save but "Read Only Mode" error comes up

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Hello,

I am a student running Rhino 7. I have been working on a file for a few weeks now and when I attempt to Save a error occurs saying “File opened in read-only mode. You must use SaveAs to save changes”. Is there a way to prevent that from happening? I have no intentionally turned on Read-Only mode, and I do not want multiple copies of the same file. Any advice would be appreciated

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It may be that Rhino has crashed at some point. You’ll probably find a file ending with the extension .rhl. If that is the case remove that .rhl file. You should be able to open the file again in read-write mode.

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Hey @nathanletwory, I am getting this bug all the time since ~2 weeks, which is super annoying. The files are definitely not read only and there is no .rhl present.

I would be very happy if McNeel could tackle this, before it never occured to me in this way.

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Hi Max,
Please run SystemInfo and paste the results here. I would like to figure out what is causing this issue on your computer.

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Hey Steve, here is the SystemInfo.
Any help appreciated, thanks!

Rhino 7 SR5 2021-3-23 (Rhino 7, 7.5.21082.11001, Git hash:master @ 944c103dcfd368bc1974c8866461f0c7bf5ae9d3)
License type: Studentenlizenz, build 2021-03-23
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10.0.19042 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 64Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [79% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 2-18-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 3-10-2021 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 461.92
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-10-2021
Driver Version: 27.21.14.6192
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7 WIP\Plug-ins\Karamba\License\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino7.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”
C:\Users\EFESTWIN\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\TeDAsharp (ce983e9d-72de-4a79-8832-7c374e6e26de)\1.0.7325.19068\TeDaSharp_040.rhp “TeDAsharp” 1.0.7325.19068
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Twinmotion Direct Link 2020.2 (e24ee14a-9514-47da-8fe6-f6e61b20160e)\Twinmotion Direct Link 2020.rhp “Twinmotion Direct Link 2020” 1.0.6.0
C:\Users\EFESTWIN\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.0\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp “NVIDIADenoiser.Windows” 0.4.0.0
C:\Users\EFESTWIN\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SubstanceImporter\1.0.0\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.5.21082.11001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

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Did you install Hops? If you did, please run PackageManager and make sure you have the most recent version.

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Oh yeah this might be the culprit. Indeed the version was a little outdated. After the update I had no such issues yesterday. Fingers crossed that this was it :wink:

Thank you for your immediate help Steve! Greatly appreciated :slight_smile:

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Hello,

I’m having the same issue with saving files. Once I open an old file and try to save it, I get a warning that the file is opened in read-only mode. It also happens when I create new file, save it for the first time and then when I save it again I get the warning. Moreover, the files that I tried to save like that are now borken (no worries, I have backups). The warning says that these are not a Rhino files.

No Hops installed on my system.

I have to stop working because of this issue, so I’m kindly asking for help.

My system setup is:

Rhino 7 SR28 2023-2-20 (Rhino 7, 7.28.23051.01001, Git hash:master @ ecfcd02768bed4b2c815721da70bb5ef985d2796)
License type: Komercyjna, build 2023-02-20
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 1-20-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro RTX 3000 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 8-4-2022 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 513.63
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 8-4-2022
Driver Version: 30.0.15.1363
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Karamba\License\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino7.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”
C:\Users\Biuro\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.3\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp “NVIDIADenoiser.Windows” 0.4.3.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.28.23051.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.28.23051.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.28.23051.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.28.23051.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.28.23051.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\Biuro\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\PanelingTools\2021.3.2.446\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”

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Hello. I’ve been having the same problem with Rhino8 for a few days now. When I save a .3dm file and overwrite the open file, it shows me a message that the file is read-only. After exiting Rhino, I can’t do anything with the file. It can’t be opened, copied, or deleted. The same problem occurs with the file exported to .stp.
I can only open, move, or delete this file after the computer administrator grants me access to it.

SystemInfo:

Rhino 8 SR15 2025-1-13 (Rhino 8, 8.15.25013.13001, Git hash:master @ 424331904354085c3cb84eda50bc6e3d92d470f4)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-01-13
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 48GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: Radeon ™ Pro WX 5100 Graphics (AMD) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 2-20-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 Compatibility Profile Context 24.Q1.240216
> Accelerated graphics device with 7 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60
Driver Date: 2-20-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.21912.14
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8135 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “PrzeglądarkaWWW”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “BezczynnyProcesor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.15.25013.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

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Hi Piotr Wezik,

Are you saving to a local , networked or cloud location?

Does unchecking the .rhl file locking (restart Rhino after changing) change the behavior?

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actually the .rhl file wouldn’t affect stp, so this is more likely something to do with the permissions

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Today I tried exporting a simple cube to various formats: .stl, .dwg, .obj, .igs, .x_t, .x3dv, .dxf, and .stp. Only when exporting to the .stp file, access is blocked by the administrator.
I save files to my local drive on the desktop and to a USB drive. I am the only user of the computer - administrator account. The problem appeared a few days ago. Maybe after the last Windows or Rhino update, some kind of block occurred?

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If you have Windows Defender active you could try whitelisting Rhino and see if that helps.

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I don’t use Windows Defender. If it were blocking Rhino, I think every file saved in Rhino would be blocked, but now only .stp and overwritten .3dm files are blocked.

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I probably should have said Windows Defender or any other security software. These software can selectively block actions from software if they find based on their heuristics that the software is malware. Fingerprints and such for code somehow create a match in their database. Often whitelisting Rhino will help in that case.

But if you are not using any security software and you have everything from Windows Defender completely turned off then I have no clue.

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I’m using Comodo, but I just tried disabling the protection and the problem still exists.