Hello everyone, I saw this clip on YouTube and wanted to share it here.
That’s good work, I’ve never seen anything like this before.
I wonder who the developer is!
A new member of the ‘mcneel should hire this guy’ club.
yep, this guy really earned his membership.
Good work.
Most of our users would freak out and drag us thru the streets with torches and pitchforks if we changed Rhino this much in one go.
We barely survived the v8 mac/pc UI unification project with all the vitriol we got from just that and none of the icons changed at all…
I 100% fully support and will continue to support the ability to customize Rhino to your hearts content, and this is a very interesting effort, but doing something like this as a “UI refresh” and shipping it as a default would get likely get us all killed by an angry Mob.
I think you will get torches and pitchforks if you change the UI drastically, and you will also get torches and pitchforks if you don’t.
I’ll personally bring my pitchfork to join the ‘don’t change anything!’ crowd, and the ‘fix Rhino’s workspace issues so I can change whatever I want’.
That example linked above is very cute, but the icons feel very cryptic because the design prioritizes visual consistency over uniqueness and quick identification/differentiation of each icon.
G
Hi,
It looks to me like this is not a tutorial but a well rehearsed modeling session, notice the poster doesn’t show you how he created the curves he is modeling from.
If you take any model and remodel it knowing exactly which steps you are going to take and already have the curves constructed you can breeze through it and amaze your friends and coworkers. You could do this same modeling without icons and do command line only and type in alias or commands and it would look like a miracle.
Better to learn the basics of Rhino first, we’re all looking for silver bullets so I just wanted to drop a line of caution.
I do like what the poster is doing and I like the look of their icons, it’s a good thing to stream line modeling and make it conceptually easier.
RM
You people still use Icons?
The best solution is to maintain the default Rhino interface and support a second party to create and customize a good interface, similar to Windows themes.
Command line interface for the win here!
That’s disingenuous and you know it. You got vitriol because V8 is by far the buggiest, very much least thought through and sloppiest designed release you put out in years and you knew ahead of release, still haven’t fixed everything yet already begun working on V9.
Also, is this the bloody third time this is happening now???
(Plus, good strategy to avoid the clown panel situation… because those can’t be customized.)
Hi guys, I’m the author of RhinoUI.
Thank you for your replies!
What’s your plan with this - are you going to release it to the public at some point?
I mean I remember using back in high school circa 1991 one of the first programs with customizable buttons–a word processor, forget its name–and the entire concept of them was faster access to frequently-used tools, not a duplicate of the menus with inscrutable pictures, it’s simply nonsense on all levels. Being able to use a toolbar button to simply pop up another toolbar was a mistake.
I got this to try it out and while there are things I like with it, there are some drawbacks as well.
Would’ve liked it if it was possible/easier to make custom changes to it. But it seems that it might not be that easy.
If we have to avoid the appearance settings for ex. because it breaks the theme. And the changes doesn’t seem very accessible to customize since it’s all baked in an exe file.
Would’ve preferred raw files to work with. I’d hoped for the icon svg’s for one.
Anyway,
This removed all my settings and customizations, years of them. I did some backups before installing this but there’s still some stuff I haven’t managed to get back yet.
I got the aliases and hotkeys back but bringing back my view modes breaks the theme somewhat.
Hopefully it won’t be too much of a hassle to get everything back.
I have a few panels that I need to set up from scratch again and such.
I hope this won’t be a issue but it worries me somewhat that I won’t be able to save and backup my customized version of this in a simple way.
Since it’s dependent on whatever is in that exe to first replace everything.
Btw. the color coded icons are amazing!
The difference between mesh and subd commands could be more pronounced perhaps but it’sa great concept
Rhino icons let me do the work I do. Some people prefer typing aliases or text commands in the Command line, or accessing them from the dropdown text menus. Rhino is one of those CAD programs that offers multiple ways to run the majority of commands*, which is extremely important, because everyone has their own taste and requirements.
*some commands are less known, because they are found/hidden in the dropdown menus only, and, sadly, lack their own icons.
Thank you for your feedback!
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The exe file is simply a packaging tool for easier installation. Rest assured, your original settings are still there, and this is why I use the scheme setup.
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Your default settings, including the new theme settings, should be located in %appdata%/mcneel/rhino/8.0/settings. Remember the shortcut you created earlier? Each theme uses its own shortcut, and that’s why I packaged it into an exe file to avoid potential issues.
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I will share all the SVG source files on GitHub, but I need some time to reorganize the icons. I am still figuring out GitHub, https://github.com/rhinoui/rhino-custom-icons.
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There’s a Rhino bug where if you stay on the “appearance/color” page, it might overwrite some of your settings. You can modify the interface through the advanced settings instead to avoid this issue.
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Regarding aliases and hotkeys, if you need them to be included in the new theme, I’ll look into it further. It shouldn’t be too difficult, and I’ll get back to you once I have a solution.
Just got back to my computer.
If you want to quickly replace your previous shortcut keys and alias list:
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Press WIN + R to open the Run dialog and type in
%AppData%\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\settings
(without the quotes).
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You’ll see multiple folders and files, with filenames that have related endings. The one ending with “Default” should be the theme you were using before (each theme corresponds to a folder for icons, a settings file, and a window position file).
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In the new theme,like scheme_Pro, add one or two shortcut keys or aliases, then close Rhino. This step is to ensure the new settings file gets properly updated.
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Open
settings-Scheme__Default.xml
with a text editor. You’ll see sections about shortcut keys and alias lists. Copy the relevant parts and replace them in the settings file for your desired theme, e.g.,settings-Scheme__Pro.xml
, then save.
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You can also back up your customized themes this way. For example, if you have a Scheme_Pro theme, make a copy (including the folder and the two XML files), and rename it to Scheme_New or something else. Remember to back it up elsewhere as well. Then go back to the beginning and create a new Rhino shortcut pointing to this theme.
This link might be helpful: https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/en-us/information/startingrhino.htm.
I agree with you that it is not a good idea to radically change the interface and the look of the icons. but your icons are very anarchic and lack visual logic. i ask you to consider changing the color scheme of the icons. as Gemvision or RhinoArtisan did. different colors of the icons will lead to faster visual search. which leads to a convenient and fast work.