Rhino v6 saving files takes extremely long (more than 1 hour)

Dear Experts,

My Rhino saves files extremely slow. I created a test file with a simple box geometry arrayed 1000x100 times to make the file weight around 1GB. Then I tried to save it, and it took more than 1 hour.
That was just a test because I experienced a similar issue with other files too. I thought it might be due to some badObjects in the file but it seems that the issue is somewhere else.

I have just uninstalled and reinstalled the graphic card drivers with clear settings.

I also checked the speed of saving the file during the process in the Windows Task Manager and it showed it to be less than 1MB/s (mostly around 300kB/s)
I save to a local SSD M.2 drive. In benchmark it shows around 3,2GB/2,0GB read/write efficiency. Thus I assume the hard drive is not the issue.

I’ll appreciate any help and any suggestions for ie. changing settings of motherboard or graphic card, or Rhino itself.

Here is the SystemInfo from Rhino:

Rhino 6 SR30 2020-10-14 (Rhino 6, 6.30.20288.16411)

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-2RNF5K3

Non-hybrid graphics.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 9-30-2020 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 456.71

OpenGL Settings
  Safe mode: Off
  Use accelerated hardware modes: On
  Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
  
  Anti-alias mode: 8x
  Mip Map Filtering: Linear
  Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height
  
  Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
  Render version: 4.6
  Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
  Driver Date: 9-30-2020
  Driver Version: 27.21.14.5671
  Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
  Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
  Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
  Total Video Memory: 8 GB

Rhino plugins
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	6.30.20288.16411
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp	"Rhino Bonus Tools"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp	"Rhino Render"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	6.30.20288.16411
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit UI"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	6.30.20288.16411
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp	"Toolbars"	6.30.20288.16411
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp	"3Dconnexion 3D Mouse"	
  E:\PROGRAMS\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"

Hello - please run the AutoSave command and note how long that takes.

-Pascal

Thank you Pascal for quick response. The AutoSave option takes around 1min. Both destination folders are on the same drive. This unfortunately doesn’t help much. I often need a fully saved file during a day.

Does that tell you anything speciffic about the issue?

Thanks

Hello - yes it does - most likely, at any rate, the lost time is spent compressing the file. I believe we have a way to work around this but I am not sure it is in V6, maybe only V7, I am checking on that.

@sebastian.d - this is in V6 and V7 - please try:

Options > Advanced, and in the filter/search box type in ‘compression’ to filter the list. You should see

Set that to False - does that help?

-Pascal

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Hi @pascal,
Your suggestion seems to have solved the slow saves in V7 beta for me. I’m digging deeper to see if save times go up with that setting unchecked they did go up slightly but only by seconds so it’s looking better.

I have a script that measures save time and pastes the results to notes:

Here I shut compression off
save
Command Start Time 11/3/2020 at 6:51:27 PM
Command End Time 11/3/2020 at 6:51:34 PM
Total Time for save command = 6.640625 seconds

Here I turned compression back on notice how much longer it takes to save
save
Command Start Time 11/3/2020 at 6:52:22 PM
Command End Time 11/3/2020 at 7:00:24 PM
Total Time for save command = 482.3828 seconds

Here I shut compression off again and notice Rhino saves quickly again.
save
Command Start Time 11/3/2020 at 7:23:49 PM
Command End Time 11/3/2020 at 7:23:56 PM
Total Time for save command = 6.945313 seconds

Thanks for your suggestion.

RM

See this thread
https://discourse.mcneel.com/t/re-v7-beta-taking-excessively-long-to-save-files/110883

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Thank you Pascal.
It actually solved the problem. It took ages for me to browse through similar topics but with no clear answer. I believe your suggestion should be copied to all other discussions relating to slow save.
The file gets approx. 50% bigger but with no harm to the smoothes of operating the 3d geometry. Let’s hope it stays that way.

All best
Sebastian