Rhino - Profile Builder


#1

Hi,

I started modeling a classic interior and I faced that the profiles of door frames will be painful If I need to remodel everything.

There is a great Profile Builder Plugin for Sketchup:
It can join corner and profiles are changeable.
http://extensions.sketchup.com/en/content/profile-builder-free-edition

However I am looking for something similar for Rhino but I have not found. I use Visualarq but beams cannot make right joints at corners by the way this features would be a key.

Has anybody met with alike addon?


(Brian James) #2

Hi onrender,

I just checked with the VisualArq developers and this is not a feature currently but is planned. You can record history on Sweep1 though and then adjust the cross section profile’s control points. This might help speed things up for you when adjusting molding. Intersections like an T or I beam will still require Booleans and I’d suggest MergeAllFaces as well.


#3

I assumed at some point I would stumble upon the command in Rhino that does the same thing that Follow Me does in SketchUp. I’m quite surprised to hear that it doesn’t exist.

This is one of the reasons I think it’s crucial that software be designed to play well with others. I work in AutoCAD LT, SketchUp, modo and now, Rhino. I can possibly envision leaving AutoCAD LT behind at some point but the other programs all have features unique to themselves that are not replicated in other packages so going back and forth is a necessary part of my workflow.


(Brian James) #4

Is it the interactivity of moving the cursor along an edge while the extrusion is made that is missing in Rhino? It looks like Sweep1 (and Cap to close the planar holes if any) would do the same thing in terms of the form but I don’t use SketchUp and might be missing something.


#5

Follow Me in SketchUp (Profile Builder is Follow Me on steroids) is a 3 click process of making a profile follow a path while making (mostly) all angles correctly. In the attached JPG I selected the line drawing of the rectangle, selected the Push Pull tool, then clicked on the profile shape. Follow Me did the rest, including the corner angles. Follow Me bisects the angle so the tool works on any path, not just 90 degree turns.


#6

yeah… sweep1 is the rhino equivalent to follow me in sketchup.

and i’d really rather not get into a huge downfall of sketchup regarding swept surfaces but follow me is basically useless for all but the simplest of shapes (you can’t use it on a round path and expect any sort of accuracy)…


#7

maybe but that interactivity is a horrible way to use the tool (dragging the profile along the path)… i don’t know of one intermediate/advance sketchup user that uses the followme tool in that way… everyone, once they figure out it’s possible, selects the path then the profile… same way as sweep1 works.


#8

Well, yes. But isn’t that a large part of the move from SketchUp to Rhino - accurate curves? Having said that I can’t compute how much time Push Pull and Push Pull and Keep has saved me over the last several years - door frames, window frames, counter edges, handrails, cabinet door trims, etc. I have no complaints about the tool.


#9

[quote=“arail, post:8, topic:836, full:true”]
Well, yes. But isn’t that a large part of the move from SketchUp to Rhino - accurate curves?[/quote]

for me personally, yes… that’s what made me begin searching alternatives to sketchup

[quote=“arail”]
Having said that I can’t compute how much time Push Pull and Push Pull and Keep has saved me over the last several years - door frames, window frames, counter edges, handrails, cabinet door trims, etc. I have no complaints about the tool. [/quote]

i assume you mean follow me and follow-me-and-keep (a plugin which keeps the profile vertical regardless of curve direction-- roadlike in rhino terminology)…

dunno, i’ve used sketchup for 10 years and i (at least i think i do :wink: ) know everything there is to know about it… when it comes to drawing, i’ve yet to find something that sketchup can do which rhino can’t do (and do better in most cases)…

if you bump into a function which you feel is missing in rhino, i’d say just ask because as far as i’ve found so far, everything is in rhino (not to mention the few hundred things in rhino which aren’t in sketchup :wink: )


#10

Yes, I meant Follow Me, not Push Pull

I would not disagree with anything you’ve said and I too am very excited about how much ‘like’ SketchUp Rhino is (in the sense of ease of use, incredibly intuitive workflow, sleek, elegant, intelligent, a joy to work with, etc.) - but with vastly expanded capabilities over SketchUp.

Some of the things that I go back to SketchUp for are probably things that can be done in Rhino but my knowledge is still very limited. For instance I do not know a way to make the attached image with essentially one click in Rhino - and I think this was the OP’s question - having to do more with joints than the sweep itself.


#11

[quote=“arail, post:10, topic:836”]. For instance I do not know a way to make the attached image with essentially one click in Rhino - and I think this was the OP’s question - having to do more with joints than the sweep itself.
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you would do it the same way as in sketchup…

also, check out the history function which makes it possible to edit the profile afterwards (whereas in sketchup, you’d have to delete, change the profile, resweep


#12

Thanks for that Jeff.
Something new to learn every day.
Soon on to Grasshopper (now that’s a plugin!)


#13

Hello, thank you All for all responses. having through your discussion I found the same ways, otherwise Grasshopper.

However what do you mean it is a plugin? Is there a plugin for grasshopper doing this? I just found definitions that solve the parametric issue.


#14

I was referring to Grasshopper as a plugin to Rhino
But as per Jeff Hammond’s suggestion - the basic wood work (door frames. moldings, etc.) can be done straight out of Rhino. I’m sure there are ways that Grasshopper can expand the functionality of this