Long time Rhino user and always amazed by how stable it has always been.
V8 keeps crashing, I’ve had floating windows (layers) freezing, what’s going on ? Is it just me ?
Seems very strange as we are now at SR8…
My experience is very similar to yours. I’m currently running a Rhino 8 trial and have found it to be less stable than previous versions. In the 60 or so days I’ve been running it, I think I’ve had three crashes. Previous versions probably crashed once a year (if that).
Putting it in context, Rhino is still one of the most stable apps I use and I’m almost certain to upgrade to v8.
Hi -
I’m not seeing any crash reports in our system from either of you. When Rhino crashes and the crash reporter pops up, please always send that in so that we get some of the information that we need to be able to fix things.
Apart from that, if you have a workflow that consistently causes a crash, please provide the steps we need to take to reproduce that on our systems.
Also, always copy-paste the output of the Rhino SystemInfo command when reporting bugs.
-wim
Two out of the three crashes didn’t generate a report, the other dumped a file on my desktop but I didn’t get the window with the link to email it to McNeel. I think that’s what used to happen in v7, unless I’m misremembering (it’s a long while since I had a crash in v7).
All crashes happened while I was experimenting with render, materials and switching views (a floating window was involved in one I think). My PC is a bit old and my GPU is a lowly Quardro K1200, I assumed I was over stressing it.
Hi there, i have some major stability issues with the current Rhino version. If I open Rhino, then use _Import and open the file “Emerald Cut” Rhino crashes.
Emerald Cut.3dm (1.1 MB)
It also crashes when i import some other rhino file, the one provided is just an example.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
System Info:
Rhino 8 SR22 2025-7-20 (Rhino 8, 8.22.25201.15001, Git hash:master @ a60ea0aa8b370a66a674d35be5fc1120ca466d4c)
License type: Commercial, Build 2025-07-20
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9310.0
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 11-22-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 566.24
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 8-27-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 11-22-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6624
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot12RhinoPlugin (78243fe3-17a0-4865-b713-88b4c224c48c)\1.1.0.0\KeyShot2023RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot2023RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot12RhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.22.25201.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Doesn’t crash here in the latest 8.22 SRC. (there is one missing texture).
You might start by updating both your NVidia and Intel drivers. If that doesn’t help, try temporarily disabling Keyshot to see if the crashes stop.
Thanks for the tips, I installed the newest SRC and drivers, but the problem persists.
I also found out that the problem is also occuring when i just try to open the “Emerald Cut” file. So I guess it has nothing to do with the Import command.
If I correctly remember the geometry in the provided file is a Block Instance and is also missing a texture, maybe this has something to do with the problem. So I converted 2 different geometries to a Block, saved them as individual files,closed Rhino and opened them. No Problem.
So maybe the missing texture causes the problem?
Hi Joshua -
I’m not seeing any crash reports from you email address here. When Rhino crashes, does the Rhino crash reporter pop up?
As Mitch already suggested, have you tried disabling that plug-in in the Plugin Manager and then restarting Rhino?
Why are you running Rhino in this mode?
The object in the file that you posted isn’t a block. I’ve removed the texture and saved it as a new file. Does that still crash on your end?
Emerald Cut-NoImageFile.3dm (2.2 MB)
-wim
Hi Wim, thank you for the suggestions.
I just crashed Rhino 2 times in the last 15 minutes and filled out the crash reporter. Did you receive a report?
I disabled the KeyShot 12 Plugin, no success. I also tried the NoImageFile, still crashes…
Here the current SysInfo
Rhino 8 SR22 2025-7-29 (Rhino 8, 8.22.25210.13001, Git hash:master @ 1663c1af491fddbfad9f654a5a4f275696be796a)
License type: Commercial, Build 2025-07-29
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9310.0
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (NVidia) Memory: 12GB, Driver date: 7-14-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 577.00
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770 (Intel) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 8-27-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-14-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7700
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 12 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.22.25210.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Hi Joshua -
Nope, nothing here.
Do you use your j*.r*@b*.com address in those reports?
Most of the time, such crashes are caused by the display drivers from the GPU. You did update those drivers, but at this point, I’d try a clean install of those drivers.
Here’s a recipe for doing so:
-wim
Hi Wim, I used another email address before, now i crashed it again and sendt the report with my correct address.
I will do a clean install of my GPU drivers amd let you know if it works.
So I tried to manually change the drivers to the current versions, but it still does not work.
After talking to IT, I found out that my workstation is automatically updated to the “correct” drivers and that can’t really be changed.
I will get a new notebook with Windows 11 in a couple of weeks, so the problem will (at least for me) solve itself …
Not really the solution I was hoping for.
Hi Joshua -
You never answered this question:
-wim
Hi Wim
To be honest I have no idea, I have never consciously choosen this framework.
Hi Joshua -
Does it make a difference if you switch to the default .NET Core?
-wim
Hi Wim, I changed to the .NET Core as explained here:
https://www.rhino3d.com/en/docs/guides/netcore/#to-start-rhino-in-net-core-once
It still does not work.
The current Versions I used are:
Rhino 8 SR22 2025-7-29 Rhino 8, 8.22.25210.13001
Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 8.0.18
Ah no I remembered, I swiched it some time ago for the ShapeDiver Plugin.