Rhino 8 Grasshopper - Hide Wires Keyboard Shortcut Not Working

Hi there,

Just wanted to flag that the keyboard shortcuts for wire display in Rhino 8 Grasshopper doesn’t seem to be working. In Rhino 7 I was able to right click a component and hit “W” + “H” to hide wires, which was very handy.

Thanks for all the hard work!

Yes, none of those shortcuts work and I’m also waiting for them to be reimplemented…

@AndyPayne @Gijs @eirannejad @kike @brian @dale @DavidRutten
Dear Rhino 8 Developers,
This may seem like a minor issue but it’s the main reason why I’m holding off upgrading to RH8.
Grasshopper scripting is delightfully intuitive but it’s slow because it involves a lot of mouse dragging. At the moment the only keyboard assist available in Rhino7 is through right-clicking component inputs/outputs:
Right-click then F to flatten
Right-click then G to Graft
Right-click then W then H for hidden Wire input.
Right-click then S then S then Enter for “Select one geometry”

This was something, but it disappeared in Rhino 8

Please reinstate it or come up with something better :slight_smile:

This is on the list as
https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-73289

it doesn’t seem like a top priority for @DavidRutten
is there anyone else that can do this kind of UI investigation?

@curtis do you have a clue why this would work in Rhino 7 gh, but not in Rhino 8 gh?

Echo this topic!

I really need this short cut back. That’s a life saver feature in the previous GH.

Jiewei.

Looks like it is fixed with the latest update!!

Thanks very much McNeel!
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… I spoke too soon. Seems to work when running Rhino.Inside Revit, which is great, but not when running Rhino Standalone. :frowning:

Does anyone know if there is a plugin that could do this?

It’s the kind of stuff that you miss the most when they are taken from you. The other day I was creating a panel with multiple values and wanted to toggle the panel to treat it as a list (non-multiline data), and tried the good old RMB+M and was devastated.

Without the shortcuts it’s like tying shoelaces with boxing gloves on.

Sorry guys but I have to bump this.
This bug is driving me absolutely nuts and kills my GH productivity. Could you please please prioritize this?

Have you tried the latest 8.5 Service Release? :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

I’m on Rhino 8 SR6 2024-3-6 and the shortcuts don’t work.

In most situations I’m using a panel without multiline mode, so I created a user object which also doesn’t contain any default text so I can enter my inputs straight away.

System Info

Rhino 8 SR6 2024-3-6 (Rhino 8, 8.6.24066.06001, Git hash:master @ 0af1b59a0c5932b51da39377fe3c154ed8b753bd)
License type: Kommerziell, build 2024-03-06
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 128GB)
.NET 7.0.17

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A5000 (NVidia) Memory: 22GB, Driver date: 2-7-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.52
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #0
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #1

Secondary graphics devices.
NVIDIA Quadro K2200 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 2-7-2024 (M-D-Y).
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device!

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 2-7-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5152
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 23028 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino 8 SR6
C:\Users\martinsiegrist\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\NVIDIADenoiser\0.4.3\NVIDIADenoiser.Windows.rhp “NVIDIADenoiser.Windows” 0.4.3.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.6.24066.6001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Running Rhino in .NET Framework mode (via SetDotNetRuntime command) seems to do the trick. Can you try whether that works for you as well?

That seems to do the trick. What is the difference between Default, NETCore and NETFramework? Does this have an influence on other things?

I can’t describe it really well, but here’s an article:

So, in short, Rhino moved to .NET 7 which should have various benefits.

.NET Framework has been used in Rhino 7

Switching from default .NET 7 back to .NET Framework is a step backwards, no?

Exactly. Far from ideal. Hopefully this helps McNeel find the root cause for missing shortcuts and get them implemented in Rhino 8 without reverting back to an older framework.

Wanted to just add to this as It is a frustration I am coming a crossed. I upvote this

I was going to add a post about how I cant hot key wire display and simple shortcuts as I am working. didn’t realize how much I use these until they were gone.