Hi,
in our company (small, architecture & furniture design) we have now switched to Rhino mac 7 wip. We are testing it extensively and for the most part are quiet satisfied.
What is still a bit disappointing is 2d drawing speed. Zooming and drawing still feels laggy and every click seems to have a delay. We are not working on huge projects, it is all small stuff. We encounter the same problem with my macbook pro, my brothers macbook pro (13 inch) and our mac minis.
Machine 1:
Rhino 7 SR0 2020-9-15 (Rhino WIP, 7.0.20259.15066, Git hash:master @ 7b653f7913cee10b2bd173435b93e0202bd2ae71)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-09-15
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2020-10-30
Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 10.15.6 (Build 19G2021) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro13,3
Language: en-IT (MacOS default)
AMD Radeon Pro 450 OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-3.10.16)
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height
Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2 GB
Graphics: AMD Radeon Pro 450
Displays: Color LCD (258dpi 2x)
Graphics processors
Intel HD Graphics 530 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 450 (2 GB)
Color LCD (1680 x 1050)
USB devices
Apple Inc.: Apple T1 Controller
Bluetooth devices
Broadcom: Magic Mouse 2
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/Users/achimreifer/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp/libmwdotnet_native.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmxcommon.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libcudart.10.1.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/wireframetexture.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/LensExtensions.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellCloner.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_date_time.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_system.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_filesystem.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_iostreams.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_thread.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/xritebrdf.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libAxFDecoding.1.7.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellProcedurals.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/TiledTexture.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellHair.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MGrassH.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MGrassP.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellGrass.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/SubdivisionModifier.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwglew.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwtbb.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellSea.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/Substance.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellScatter.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/AssetReference.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellVolumetric.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwtbbmalloc.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MWObjectAlembic.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellMesher.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaterialModifiers.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/TableBrdf.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/rfmeshes.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellParticles.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/rwmeshes.osx.mxx
/Users/achimreifer/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp/libmxdotnet_native.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/achimreifer/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp âMaxwell for Rhinoâ 5.1.6.2
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp âSnapshotsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoBonusTools.rhp âRhino Bonus Toolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp âPanelingToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp âAnimationToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp âSolidToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework âRenderer Development Kitâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp âDisplacementâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp âLegacy Rhino Renderâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp âCommandsâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_OBJ.rhp âImport_OBJâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_XAML.rhp âexport_xamlâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/QuadRemesh.rhp âQuadRemeshâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_OBJ.rhp âexport_OBJâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp âRDK_EtoUIâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_SVG.rhp âExport SVGâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp âMeshCommandsâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_DAE.rhp âExport_DAEâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PDF.rhp âPDF Exportâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_IGES.rhp âIGES Export Plug-inâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_SVG.rhp âImport_SVGâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp âBlockEditâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_AMF.rhp âExport_AMFâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp âRhino Renderâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import_DST.rhp âImport_DSTâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PLY.rhp âPLY - Polygon File Format Exportâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_AMF.rhp âImport_AMFâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp âRhinoCyclesâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp âIronPythonâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp âGrasshopperâ 7.0.20259.15066
Machine 2:
Rhino 7 SR0 2020-9-15 (Rhino WIP, 7.0.20259.15066, Git hash:master @ 7b653f7913cee10b2bd173435b93e0202bd2ae71)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-09-15
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2020-10-30
Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 10.15.6 (Build 19G2021) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: Macmini7,1
Language: en-IT (MacOS default)
Intel Iris OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 INTEL-14.7.8)
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height
Vendor Name: Intel Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1536 MB
Graphics: Intel Iris
Displays: EV2216W (90dpi 1x), EV2216W (90dpi 1x)
Graphics processors
Intel Iris (1536 MB)
EV2216W (1680 x 1050)
EV2216W (1680 x 1050)
USB devices
Apple, Inc.: IR Receiver
Apple Inc.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc.: Apple Keyboard
Logitech: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/Users/0xii/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp/libmwdotnet_native.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmxcommon.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libcudart.10.1.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/wireframetexture.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/LensExtensions.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellCloner.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_date_time.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_system.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_filesystem.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_iostreams.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libboost_thread.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/xritebrdf.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libAxFDecoding.1.7.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellProcedurals.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/TiledTexture.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellHair.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MGrassH.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MGrassP.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellGrass.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/SubdivisionModifier.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwglew.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwtbb.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellSea.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/Substance.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellScatter.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/AssetReference.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellVolumetric.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/libmwtbbmalloc.dylib
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MWObjectAlembic.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellMesher.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaterialModifiers.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/TableBrdf.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/rfmeshes.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/MaxwellParticles.osx.mxx
/Applications/Maxwell Render 5/extensions/rwmeshes.osx.mxx
/Users/0xii/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp/libmxdotnet_native.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/0xii/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/maxwell_rhino.rhp âMaxwell for Rhinoâ 5.1.6.2
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp âSnapshotsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoBonusTools.rhp âRhino Bonus Toolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp âPanelingToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp âAnimationToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp âSolidToolsâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework âRenderer Development Kitâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp âDisplacementâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp âLegacy Rhino Renderâ 7.0.20259.1002
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp âCommandsâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_OBJ.rhp âImport_OBJâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_XAML.rhp âexport_xamlâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/QuadRemesh.rhp âQuadRemeshâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_OBJ.rhp âexport_OBJâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp âRDK_EtoUIâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_SVG.rhp âExport SVGâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp âMeshCommandsâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_DAE.rhp âExport_DAEâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PDF.rhp âPDF Exportâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_IGES.rhp âIGES Export Plug-inâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_SVG.rhp âImport_SVGâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp âBlockEditâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_AMF.rhp âExport_AMFâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp âRhino Renderâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import_DST.rhp âImport_DSTâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PLY.rhp âPLY - Polygon File Format Exportâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_AMF.rhp âImport_AMFâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp âRhinoCyclesâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp âIronPythonâ 7.0.20259.15066
/Applications/RhinoWIP.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp âGrasshopperâ 7.0.20259.15066
both machines are light on vram which could explain the performance issue you are seeing.
The 2nd machine is running intel iris graphics which are not great for open gl programs like rhino.
the 1st machine only has 2gb vram on the radeon⌠again⌠a little light as weâd like to see 4gb.
see this thread- If you are buying a new laptop READ THIS
for macs, the choices are very limited, but in order to run well, you should buy the biggest graphics card they offer in each machine. RUN AWAY from intel integrated graphics machines.
Also note that even if you will buy a maxed out MacBook Pro, youâre still going to find that Rhino for Mac is going to feel more sluggish than Rhino for windows, (unless maybe when youâre running windows on bootcamp). And I find it still much less responsive than v5 Mac Rhino.
Also the more instances I open the slower it gets unlike with Rhino on my Windows desktop.
I tested out Rhino 6 the other day on an i9 MacBook Pro 16â with Radeon 5500 4Gb. That one was about 75% faster in a few display tests than my current 15â with 2Gb Radeon 450 âproâ. But to say it was fluent or fast? Not even close. In fact the best option I think is to buy a relatively simple windows laptop for just Rhino and then a MacBook for the rest. Every other trackpad feels rubbish after getting used to the ones on Mac but that you donât need anyway in Rhino.
I remember that as I student about more than 10 years ago I started to work with the first versions of Rhino mac 5 wip (the one with Toucan Render). There I had the cheapest mac hardware avalible, the cheapest macbook. But performancewise Rhino mac 5 was always fast, stable and saving resources. Since 6 and 7 wip, although it got muuuch better over the last months, there seems still be something wrong with the software itself. It feels just laggy and unresponsive, 2d drawing and layouting is slow. I know you can always buy better hardware, but Appleâs one is insanely overpriced when you want top of the shelf products with the best specs. Thatâs why people with Apple hardware buy normal spec macs and use their computer for a longer time. That is acutally the point.