Rhino 7 Layers- movement when clicking

I’ve been working in 7 for a week now, one thing that is absolutely driving me crazy- I create a lot of layers, dozens. When I click on a layer to turn it off or on, the entire list jumps up or down. Previous editions didn’t do that. If I’m in a sublayer and I mean to turn one off and the next layer on, when it jumps I have to find that layer again by scrolling to it wasting time and effort. Half the time I’m working quickly and I’m so used to clicking one after the other I click the wrong one. What the hell. How can I stop it.

Okay maybe it’s just Friday, but I closed the program, restarted, and it stopped doing it. Stuff like that makes me doubt my sanity.

Hi Dave - we have had other reports of this behavior - can you please run SystemInfo in Rhino and copy/paste the results?


Rhino 7 SR1 2020-12-8 (Rhino 7, 7.1.20343.09491, Git hash:master @ 350b20978b4fcd75493212fbd3c4248983612f86)
License type: Commercial, build 2020-12-08
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10.0.18363 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel® HD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 4-11-2020 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 3-12-2020 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 442.70
> Integrated acclerated graphics device (shares primary device ports)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 3-12-2020
Driver Version:
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\francis coker\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0\Plug-ins\Flamingo nXt 5.0 (fd53f8c4-546d-47d1-8820-e66c97645a97)\5.5.18018.1000\5.5\Legacy\Flamingo.Legacy.dll "Flamingo nXt Legacy File Reader " 5.5.18018.1000
C:\Program Files\AccuRender Studio\ArStudioForRhino.rhp “ArStudioForRhino”
C:\Users\francis coker\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0\Plug-ins\Flamingo nXt 5.0 (fd53f8c4-546d-47d1-8820-e66c97645a97)\5.5.18353.6521\5.5\Flamingo.nXt.rhp “Flamingo nXt 5.5” 5.5.18353.6521

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.1.20343.9491
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.1.20343.9491
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.1.20343.9491
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.1.20343.9491
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.1.20343.9491
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Hi Dave - if this happens at all regularly, please disable the plug-in listed here:

in Options > PlugIns page, and then close and re-open Rhino. Is there any difference?


I have disabled flamingo nxt 5.5, is that what you mean? The jumping had already stopped, no idea if it would return. Disabling flamingo means it is no longer available as a renderer, correct? I don’t do renders very often but it is an important part of my job occasionally. Does this mean I have to buy a Flamingo upgrade as well?
Dave Coker

Hi Dave - disabling is a test only, temporary, to see if we can find what is causing the bad behavior - it seems at least possible that a plug-in is involved, this is to try to determine that. The fact that it had stopped for now anyway does muddy the waters, but I would keep an eye on it and try to determine whether this only happens with Flamingo loaded. As I say, so far we do not see this here.


It’s freaking out again today. Plus other problems.
At first in 7 everything was good, the layers when clicked on would blink but not move. Then I had to open files in 6 and things got weird. At first 6 was okay, then I tried to open 7 at the same time, 6 started acting up, I couldn’t do certain things, like access drawing layouts. I tried closing the programs and reopening, at first it wouldn’t even list files for 7, I closed it and tried again, this time opening 7 just froze. I rebooted the computer. This time 7 worked with the exception, the layers were jumping again. Please note, the exact order of my attempts is probably not correct, it’s as close as I can recall.
Can I operate 6 and 7 at the same time?

Hi Dave - you can absolutely run V6 and V7 at the same time. Another temporary test: Unhook the external monitor. Is there any difference?


After I rebooted the computer earlier today, everything has worked fine. I just did a little test. Closed 7, which I was working in, and unplugged the external monitor. Opened 7, played with it a bit, then opened 6. Both seemed fine. Plugged back in the monitor, moved and expanded 6 and 7 windows. Everything is working fine. So weird.

OK - let us know if it goes south again - I do not have any bright ideas as to what is happening when it breaks but the developers might.