Rhino 6 vs. Rhino 5: Point Deviation with a Point Cloud and Surface

Previously when I used Rhino 5, I used the ‘Point Deviation’ command with a point cloud and a surface, and only the colored points/display hairs that were on the front side of the surface were displayed, and the points/display hairs behind the surface were not displayed. This was an extremely useful display option, as it allowed me to fit a surface to a point cloud, without interfering with the point cloud (resulting in a plane perfectly placed at the outer position).

With Rhino 6 however, the colored points/display hairs that are both in the front of the plane and behind the plane are displayed. This makes placing the plane at the closest outer position of the point cloud very difficult. You can see in the attached image that all points/display hairs are shown – the plane is placed about midway through the point cloud, so it is difficult to decipher how far the plane is from one side of the point cloud. (I understand you can figure this out by going in a plan view parallel to the plane, however working in an isometric view is much quicker and efficient). I am hoping to have ONLY the points in FRONT of the plane displayed.

Hope someone can help. Thanks!

Hello - I see this, and I am not sure there is a workaround. It may well be fixable, but I do not see yet what to do in the meantime.

RH-60513 PointDeviation: Occlude the display

-Pascal

Hi Pascal,

I saw your post in the YT forum. Do we know if there is a fix for this yet? It’s not possible to achieve my current work tasks with this feature. Maybe I should look into downgrading to Rhino 5?

Hello - it has been fixed in the V7 WIP.


-Pascal

Hi Pascal, I just ran the WIP and it gives me the exact same result… There’s been no update on this as far as I’m aware. Hope it can be solved!

Hello - yeah, the fix was made yesterday, and the next public WIP will not be until next Tuesday if all goes well.

-Pascal

Hi Pascal,

I’m back on this same problem again… I’m analyzing point clouds right now and it looks as though this was never fixed. I installed the latest version of Rhino 6 today and I am still not able to use the software for point clouds. You mentioned that this was fixed in a WIP, was that ever put into the full version? I think Rhino 5 is still my best bet.

Hello - at the time the WIP was for V7 - the fix is in V7…

-Pascal

Hi Pascal,

Okay, and I’m assuming I’ll have to pay for a new license? That is kind of upsetting. Do you know who I could talk to about upgrading to V7?

Ryan

Hi Ryan - I would first try the V7 evaluation, to make sure it behaves as you like -

https://www.rhino3d.com/download/rhino-for-windows/evaluation

-Pascal

Hi Pascal,

The V7 evaluation works. Who should I talk to about upgrading, do you know if this is something I’d have to pay for? I’m fine with V6 other than the deviation bug.

Also side note, in V5; you can select the point clouds and the surfaces together, and you can use the “pointdeviation” command to show a deviation analysis of the clouds compared to the surfaces. In V6/V7: you have to use the “pointdeviation” command first, select only the point cloud, click enter, then select the surface, click enter, and then the analysis runs. This adds another step to the process and makes it a little more inconvenient.

Yep - the difference is, you can now extract points from objects that do not obviously have them, so surfaces can be inputs on the point side of the process. (The render mesh vertices are used as the points)

Contact sales@mcneel.com if you think an upgrade is worthwhile.

-Pascal