I had been seeing a flash of red now and then with Rhino 8 but just had to shutdown Rhino this time. Working away in very light file. Screen started to flicker red as I tried to pan, rotate, move or do anything. Not responsive so closed down all Rhino sessions. Last window to close I got the beachball then had to force quit. Is anyone else having these red screens happen in 8? I took a video but it is 70 MB and just a red screen so… Just a one off? Or is my Mac about to give up?
I presume you mean you see red only in the Rhino 8 viewport, right? A screen-shot might help here, but I think I can imagine it (despite being red/green colorblind)
Could you please run the SystemInfo command and copy/paste the results here so we could take a look?
@jeff can you remind me, are we using red to designate some major Metal failure or am I mis-remembering?
Rhino 8 SR3 2023-12-12 (Rhino 8, 8.3.23346.14002, Git hash:master @ 3b8659a0557b596b2d172939093022d2b67fd2e1)
License type: Evaluation, build 2023-12-12
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 4674337-08-16
Apple macOS Version 14.1.2 (Build 23B92) (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,1
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0
Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M (4 GB)
Studio Display (2560 x 1440)
USB devices
Apple: USB3 Gen2 Hub
Apple Inc.: Studio Display
Apple: composite_device
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGLKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGameplayKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetalKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftModelIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSceneKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpriteKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVideoToolbox.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObservation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftWebKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNaturalLanguage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
/Users/john/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot9Plugin.rhp/libkeyshot_rhino_plugin.dylib
/Users/john/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot10Rhino7Plugin.rhp/libkeyshot_rhino_plugin.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.3.23346.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.3.23346.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools” 8.3.23346.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.3.23346.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.3.23346.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.3.23346.14002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.3.23346.14002
Oh interesting, so is it always the background? I was presuming it filled the entire frame.
I’m curious, if you disconnect your Studio Display, do you see the same red artifacts on your build-in display on your MacBookPro?
Didn’t think to unplug the monitor. Next time, if it happens again, I will test that.
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My coworker - Brian J - has a similar Mac (2019 MBP) but with the AMD Radeon 5600m GPU and he sees red occasionally too (but not just in Rhino - but only after using Rhino). He thinks there might be a hardware fault here that Rhino may push into this state. It’s a plausible theory.
Hello, me too I have this weird screen display failure. It’s completeley red and when I move my rhino window to my mac dysplay the red disappear but the model is completely “destroy”. Do you know what can cause this ? It happen mainly when I play whith material but not always.
Thank you for your help
Here my system info and some screenshot:
Rhino 8 SR8 2024-6-18 (Rhino 8, 8.8.24170.13002, Git hash:master @ c3cc7c123163b65d85b517aff795627d5b12166b)
License type: Commerciale, version 2024-06-18
License details: Cloud Zoo
Apple macOS Version 14.5 (assemblage 23F79) (Physical RAM: 16GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,1
Language: fr-FR (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0
Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 5300M (4 GB)
PA278CV (2560 x 1440 @ 60.00Hz)
USB devices
Realtek: USB 10/100/1000 LAN
VIA Labs, Inc. : USB Billboard Device
Apple: composite_device
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller
Bluetooth devices
None
Third party kernel extensions
None
Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGLKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGameplayKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetalKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftModelIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSceneKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpriteKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftShazamKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObservation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVideoToolbox.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftWebKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNaturalLanguage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
/Users/Paul/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/8.0/MacPlugIns/KeyShotRhinoPlugin.rhp/libsceneapi_wrapper_rhino.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/paul/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/8.0/MacPlugIns/KeyShotRhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShotRhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rendu de Rhino” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Ancien rendu de Rhino” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.8.24170.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.8.24170.13002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.8.24170.13002
It happened to me a lot with external monitor. I upgraded to a new mac and haven’t had the problem since. Not so helpful if you can’t upgrade… but it did feel like a graphic card problem as suggested. Just feedback on my experience of this bug.
Hello John,
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Yes it is an issue of the graphic card that is overload at a certain point.
When it happen I try to move my window to my laptop display and sometimes it solve the problem. If not I have to quit rhino.