Poor performance with Dell XPS15

aronfini · November 4, 2017, 11:00pm

Hi all,
I recently bought a Dell XPS15 9560 with 32gb RAM, Nvidia GTX 1050 4gb, Intel i7 quad core and the performance with Rhino 5 is quite disappointing, even very small files don’t run smoothly.

I tried the holomark 2 test and these are the results:

Holomark 2 v2,2,03

Total Score: 18723
Total Runtime: 183.22 sec

GPU scores: 10290
GPU_01 - 264.90 fps - Cube 4 tests
GPU_02 - 20.30 fps - UDT Shape
GPU_03 - 31.30 fps - Wireframe
GPU_04 - 24.60 fps - Shaded
GPU_05 - 17.30 fps - Rendered
GPU_06 - 11.80 fps - Block Rendered
GPU_07 - 6 units Nurbs @ 5 fps in Wireframe
GPU_08 - 4 units Nurbs @ 5 fps in Shaded
GPU_09 - 13 units Nurbs @ 5 fps in RenderSpeed
GPU_10 - 41.50 fps - RenderMesh Render
GPU_11 - 101.00 fps - RenderMesh RenderSpeed
GPU_12 - 63.30 fps - JoinedMesh Render
GPU_13 - 90.10 fps - JoinedMesh RenderSpeed
GPU_14 - 2 units mesh @ 15 fps in Shaded
GPU_15 - 3 units mesh @ 15 fps in Render
GPU_16 - 13 units mesh @ 15 fps in RenderSpeed
GPU_17 - 42.90 fps - mesh in Rendered Studio
GPU_18 - 5.90 fps - Nurbs in Rendered Studio
GPU_19 - 13.10 fps - Block Illustration
GPU_20 - 28.60 fps - 2D single
GPU_21 - 6.70 fps - 2D massive (20x)

CPU scores: 8433
CPU_01 - 20.45 sec - Booleans and Contours
CPU_02 - 2.52 sec - Twist and Taper (UDT)
CPU_03 - 9.53 sec - Meshing Mini
CPU_04 - 0.06 sec - Extract Render Mesh
CPU_05 - 0.14 sec - Join Render Mesh
CPU_06 - 16.32 sec - Reduce Mesh
CPU_07 - 3.48 sec - Calculating Technical display
CPU_08 - 6.79 sec - Making Silhouettes

Dell Inc.
XPS 15 9560

Intel® HD Graphics 630 - 1024.0 MB
DriverVersion: 21.20.16.4664
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 - 4095.0 MB
DriverVersion: 22.21.13.8477

Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz
NumberOfCores: 4 NumberOfLogicalProcessors: 8
MaxClockSpeed: 2.8 GHz

TotalPhysicalMemory: 32.0 GB

Microsoft Windows 10 Home

None - 64-bit

Rhino 5 sr 14 64 bit

Seems pretty poor compared to other results I’ve seen for computers with similar setups, does anybody have any idea of what can cause the problems?
Or there are no problems and my computer is and will remain slow with rhino?

Thanks!

John_Brock · November 5, 2017, 12:30am

I’m not all that familiar with the Holomark tool. I can’t tell if the test was run using the Intel HD 630 or your GeForce.

In Rhino Options > View > OpenGL, is that option page describing the Intel chip or the nVidia GeForce?

Based on many years of tech support, my guess is you need to get you new system updated and running correctly. It new so it needs to be setup. New computer never are.

Check with Dell to see if there are any updates.
Run Windows’ Check for Updates, install them, reboot, and check again.

Any better?

mattgaydon · November 9, 2017, 4:11pm

Did you resolve the issues the the graphics card and Rhino slowness, as looking to buy that same machine Dell XPS 15 with the same spec but worried i should be going for the Precision 5520 with Xeon and the old Quadro M1200 instead now.

Also goes anyone know which spec is better for Rhino V6.

Cheers Matt

aronfini · November 9, 2017, 5:02pm

After spending a few hours on the phone with Dell the performance has improved but not as dramatically as i was hoping. Total score on Holomark 2 is 27000, still low compared to my 4 year old laptop score of 46000!
I realized I have an issue that came up several times on this forum, Rhino seems to have problems recognizing my video card and notes its drivers as N/A. I am trying to solve that problem hoping to finally get the performance i expected, but so far the xps15 has been disappointing.

mattgaydon · November 9, 2017, 8:43pm

Thanks for the quick update, Hope you get it sorted soon.

John_Brock · November 9, 2017, 8:45pm

Development on V5 ended in May with SR14.
All development since then has been on V6.

Have you tried the V6 beta on your system?
Please do and report any issues on the Serengeti category so we can hopefully do something about it.

aronfini · November 9, 2017, 9:15pm

I have not yet installed rhino6, will try that over the weekend, thanks

Holo · November 9, 2017, 11:00pm

Have you tried to set the nVidia drivers to force the 1050 to be used for Rhino?

Unfortunately I don’t have a dual card setup, so I can’t show you where and what to adjust, and neither do I remember, but i think you have to set up custom settings for Rhino in the application section of the drivers… Give it a go, and hopefully some one with more recent memory will jump in and help you out.

aronfini · November 10, 2017, 2:48am

Hi Holo, yes, that was one of the first things I adjusted.
I tchecked the settings for both Rhino 5 and 6 and bth are force to use the NVIDIA Geforce GTX1050 (instead of the Intel HD 630).
And both Rhino 5 and 6, in their system information, seem not to recognize the driver, below the system info.
I tested both 5 and 6 with a relatively complex model (very small file with several blocks), rhino 6 is definitely faster than rhino 5 but both are not as smooth as I was expecting them on a brand new computer with these specs…

Rhino 6 SR0 2017-11-7 (Rhino WIP, 6.0.17311.8431, Git hash:master @ c7eaf5f1ac3236bcd0758e2e49ceec44dfdf2949)

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 32Gb)

GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2 (OpenGL ver:4.6.0 NVIDIA 388.13)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: NA
Driver Version: NA
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\CyclesForRhino.rhp “Cycles for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino BETA\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Toshiaki_Takano · November 10, 2017, 8:56pm

Gigabyte Aero 15 laptop looks like something of interest if you don’t need to stick to dell.
Using dell xps15 now, difficult to say if it’s slow or not… I usually don’t do too much heavy stuff…
and now have external gpu…

Toshiaki_Takano · November 10, 2017, 9:04pm

Hmmm… got a xps15 9560 as well…
Driver Date:NA / Driver Version: NA on my pc as well…
never tried holomark so not sure how it goes… a bit scared to try it… if scores are low I’d also start looking to do something about it…

I’m sure you done it, but is windows on performance setting for power usage? not sure how that changes things…