Poor Line Quality and Shadows in Monochrome View

Maria_Nasr · December 17, 2024, 11:13am

Hi everyone,

I’ve been having some trouble with the Monochrome view in Rhino. The line quality and shadows look really poor, especially when zoomed out. Fully zooming in seems to improve it slightly, but even then, it’s not as clean as I’d expect.

I read somewhere that this could be related to antialiasing, but I noticed that in the new version of Rhino, this option is no longer available as a manual setting.

Does anyone have suggestions for improving the line quality and shadows in Monochrome view? I’d love to figure out how to achieve cleaner, crisper visuals.

Thanks in advance!

wim · December 17, 2024, 11:22am

Hi Maria -

Could you post the following:

The output of the Rhino SystemInfo command
A 3dm file that can be used to troubleshoot the issue
A screenshot of what it looks like on your screen

-wim

Maria_Nasr · December 19, 2024, 10:51am

Of course! Here you go
I attached a screenshot of what I get plus the 3dm file (Rhino 8).
Below is my system info:

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File Issue.3dm (9.2 MB)
](https://)Rhino 8 SR14 2024-12-10 (Rhino 8, 8.14.24345.15002, Git hash:master @ cdb74b46090a23fe242c51b288886f76467a741b)
License type: Educational, build 2024-12-10
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 14.7 (Build 23H124) (Physical RAM: 36GB)
Mac Model Identifier: Mac15,10
Language: en-LB (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0

Metal GPU Family Apple 7
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Apple M3 Max
Color LCD (1512 x 982 @ 120.00Hz)
GPU Vendor: Apple

USB devices
None

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
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/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
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/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
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/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
/Users/marianasr/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/8.0/MacPlugIns/KeyShotRhinoPlugin.rhp/libsceneapi_wrapper_rhino.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/marianasr/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/8.0/MacPlugIns/KeyShotRhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShotRhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
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/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.14.24345.15002
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/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.14.24345.15002
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/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.14.24345.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.14.24345.15002

wim · December 19, 2024, 11:06am

Hi Maria -

Thanks.
I’m on a similar machine, an Apple M3 Max, and opening your file here, it looks like this:

I’d go to the Rhino Settings → Display Modes, pick Monochrome from the list and use the Restore Defaults button. If you want to use your customizations, you can save the modified display mode as a custom mode first.
-wim

Maria_Nasr · December 19, 2024, 11:22am

Hello ! I just tried that and the result is pretty much the same

The lines are super blurry and I need to use the picture in a presentation …

wim · December 19, 2024, 4:04pm

Hi Maria -

You could use the ViewCaptureToFile command and set the scale to, e.g., 2 to make a larger version in which the edges will be thinner.
-wim

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