Please remember position and size of the Toolbar dialog box

Stefano_Menci · June 2, 2026, 9:03pm

I noticed that when the toolbar command opens the All RUIs dialog, it always opens centered within the Rhino window and always at the same size. After that, I can resize and move the dialog, and the child dialogs, such as All Toolbars and Toolbar, open within the same parent dialog/window and therefore keep the same position and size.

However, when I use Right-click → Properties…, the Toolbar dialog opens directly, but it always appears in the top-left corner of the screen and always at a small size.

I work on a 43-inch monitor and mostly access this dialog through the Properties context menu, so it is frustrating to have the Toolbar dialog open in the corner every time and then have to move and resize it manually.

My main request is that Rhino remember the last size and position of the Toolbar dialog when it is opened.

More broadly, I think the behavior should be consistent across dialogs. One possible approach would be:

Dialogs should initially open centered within Rhino’s main window.
The All RUIs dialog already does this.
The Toolbar dialog does not.
Dialogs should remember their last position and size while Rhino is running.

Another alternative would be to remember dialog position and size across Rhino sessions. Other CAD applications do this, and the advantage is that dialogs stay where I like them, just like panels and toolbars. The downside is that things can get messy when changing monitor size, monitor resolution, or monitor position.

scottd · June 22, 2026, 11:18pm

Stefano -

What version of Rhino and Platform are you currently using. I need to look a bit closer to where window location and toolbar information is contained.

martinsiegrist · June 23, 2026, 8:28am

His system info in another topic:

Stefano_Menci · June 23, 2026, 2:12pm

Hi Scott,

Things have changed since I’ve posted this message.

This is no longer the behavior I’m seeing. The Toolbar command now opens the All RUIs dialog in the same position where it was last closed.

This has also changed, but only partially. After the first time I open and close the Toolbar dialog, the next time it opens with the same X position and size as before. However, its Y position is still reset to the top of the monitor.

Since both issues are related to UI state/settings, I thought I should also mention one thing that happened between my original post and now: I reported this other issue about dark UI colors not working correctly:

In that thread, @Gijs asked me to run _Reset, save settings for support, and send him the resulting Settings.zip. I sent it to him, and he sent me back another Settings.zip that fixed the dark color issue.

I’m not sure whether that is related to the toolbar dialog behavior changing, but I wanted to mention it in case the settings ZIP exchange is relevant.

Here is the SystemInfo again (thank you @martinsiegrist):

Rhino 9 SR0 2026-6-16 (Rhino WIP, 9.0.26167.11545, Git hash:master @ 57b70c19c1a95d556312e40efd60cd1c4e9f7aaf)
License type: Evaluation, build 2026-06-16
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2026-07-31

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 10.0.9

Computer platform: LAPTOP  - Plugged in [80% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration using DirectX
  Primary display: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 5-19-2026 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device with 1 adapter port(s)
        - Laptop's primary display device

Secondary graphics devices.
  Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 12-23-2021 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

DirectX Settings
  Safe mode: Off

OpenBLAS: OpenBLAS 0.3.30 DYNAMIC_ARCH NO_AFFINITY SkylakeX MAX_THREADS=64.

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
  C:\Users\StefanoMenci\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\9.0\BlockEditNew\2.1.5\blockeditnew.rhp	"BlockEditNew"	2.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp	"UpdatesAndStatistics"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	9.0.26167.11545
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"

Stefano_Menci · June 24, 2026, 6:34pm

I just checked on another computer and the behavior is the same: Right-click -> Property does remember X position and size, but always starts with Y at the top of the monitor.

CallumSykes · October 5, 2026, 9:05pm

Sorry for the late reply @Stefano_Menci,

YT : RH-99293 Remember position of Toolbar Dialog

brian · October 6, 2026, 9:56pm

RH-99293 is fixed in Rhino BETA

CallumSykes · October 6, 2026, 10:33pm

@Stefano_Menci do let me know if this resolves your issues, otherwise I’ll need to try something else

Stefano_Menci · October 7, 2026, 8:43pm

@CallumSykes
This thread is about Right-click → Properties… that shows the Toolbars dialog (where you can edit toolbars) in the wrong position. I just updated to the latest WIP, and the behavior is still as described on Jun 23rd: it does remember the X position, but it always resets the Y position to the top of the scren.

This other thread instead is about Right-click → Show Toolbars… that shows the list of toolbars and allows to turn them on or off. I just checked and at first I thought the behavior of this command had changed, but after further investigation, it may be still the same as it used to be:

On the first instance of Rhino, the list of toolbars appears on the top left corner of the Rhino window
On the second instance, it appears at 0,0 on the main display, as I originally reported. I don’t remember whether I was working on a single instnace or on multiple instances when I reported the problem, so I can’t tell if it has changed.

The behavior I see on the second instance, popup at the top left of the monitor, is bad. If you work on an ultrawide monitor, you may need to turn your head by 120 degrees to see that tiny list.

The behavior I see on the first instance, popup at the top left of Rhino’s window, is better.

But seeing that thing, floating at that fixed position and not being able to move it, doesn’t feel right. My intuition suggests it’s either:

a popup, and it should appear where is the mouse, or
a panel, and it should be draggable and remember its position

As is, it’s a popup because it disappears when you click away, but it’s a panel because it doesn’t pop up at the mouse position, it’s up there on the top left, where you would expect a panel.

It should be either a popup, popping up at the mouse position, or a panel, turning on where it was last used.

Here is the current SystemInfo:

Rhino 9 SR0 2026-10-6 (Rhino 9 BETA, 9.0.26279.06303, Git hash:master @ 38442ba6302a687894bfeb92efd4dd088e13993d)
License type: Commercial, build 2026-10-06
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2026-11-20

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 10.0.12

Computer platform: LAPTOP  - Plugged in [79% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration using DirectX
  Primary display: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 5-19-2026 (M-D-Y). DirectX(11)
    > Integrated accelerated graphics device with 1 adapter port(s)
        - Windows Main Display is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
  Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 12-23-2021 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Secondary monitor is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
  Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 12-23-2021 (M-D-Y).
    > Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
        - Secondary monitor is laptop's integrated screen or built-in port
        - Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1

DirectX Settings
  Safe mode: Off

OpenBLAS: OpenBLAS 0.3.30 DYNAMIC_ARCH NO_AFFINITY SkylakeX MAX_THREADS=64.

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
  C:\Users\StefanoMenci\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\9.0\CommandHistoryMD\0.1.2-beta\CommandHistoryMD.rhp	"CommandHistoryMD"	0.1.2.0
  C:\Users\StefanoMenci\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\9.0\IntelliClad\0.0.19-beta\IntelliClad.rhp	"IntelliClad"	0.0.0.0
  C:\Users\StefanoMenci\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\9.0\IntelliClad\0.0.19-beta\IntelliClad.TestInput.rhp	"IntelliClad.TestInput"	1.0.0.0
  C:\Users\StefanoMenci\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\9.0\BlockEditNew\2.1.7\blockeditnew.rhp	"BlockEditNew"	2.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp	"Commands"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp	"WebBrowser"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp	"Renderer Development Kit"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp	"RhinoScript"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoAI\net8.0\RhinoAI.rhp	"RhinoAI"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\3dxRhino.9.rhp	"3DxRhino.9"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp	"IdleProcessor"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\UpdatesAndStatistics\UpdatesAndStatistics.rhp	"UpdatesAndStatistics"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp	"Rhino Render"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp	"RDK_EtoUI"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp	"Snapshots"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp	"MeshCommands"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp	"RhinoCycles"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp	"RhinoCodePlugin"	9.0.26279.6303
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp	"Displacement"	
  C:\Program Files\Rhino 9 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp	"SectionTools"

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