Paste geometry causes Rhino freezing (Rhino6)

epiphany · August 6, 2019, 7:57am

Steps to reproduce:
open file A and B
Copy geometry from file A
Paste geometry in file B
results: Rhino freezes for couple of minutes (R6 final) / forever (R6 service release candidate)

wim · August 6, 2019, 9:48am

Hi - I’m not seeing that here.
Could you post two files that cause this on your end?
Also, please run the SystemInfo command and post the result here.
-wim

epiphany · August 6, 2019, 1:41pm

Apple Intel 64-bit macOS Version 10.14.5 (Build 18F132) (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,2
Language: en-CZ (MacOS default)

Intel Iris Pro OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 INTEL-12.9.22)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: None
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: Intel Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 1536 MB
Graphics: Intel Iris Pro
Displays: Color LCD (258dpi 2x)

Graphics processors
Intel Iris Pro (1536 MB)
Color LCD (1680 x 1050)

USB devices
Apple: Internal Memory Card Reader
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Inc.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
com.kairos.driver.DuetDisplay (1) 7620686C-E9CE-3C70-AA12-DC77DABA52DD
com.epson.driver.EPSONProjectorAudio (1.40) B946B28C-3FE2-AB4C-6FDB-605A5518FA6E
ch.tripmode.TripModeNKE (2.0.2) 1D30A109-766F-3620-B617-EA67C07823A9
com.google.drivefs.filesystems.dfsfuse (32.0.11) 6CA2997C-ADC9-3E54-B202-8F49E9F338F6
com.adguard.nfext (25) D036C955-158A-3AAF-86D8-7119896DF0FE

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_FBX.rhp “Export_FBX” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoLabsTools.rhp “Rhino Labs Tools” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_LWO.rhp “Lightwave Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_PDF.rhp “PDFReader” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_SVG.rhp “Export SVG” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/CreaseAngle.rhp “CreaseAngle” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_STEP.rhp “STEP Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_Points.rhp “Points Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_SLC.rhp “SLC Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_XGL.rhp “XGL Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_3MF.rhp “import_3MF” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_SAT.rhp “ACIS Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PDF.rhp “PDF Export” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/import_DST.rhp “Import_DST” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_VDA.rhp “VDA Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_X.rhp “X Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_CSV.rhp “Comma Separated Value Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_Points.rhp “Points Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_DAE.rhp “Export_DAE” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_GTS.rhp “GTS Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_PLY.rhp “PLY - Polygon File Format Export” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_IGES.rhp “IGES Export Plug-in” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_AMF.rhp “Export_AMF” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_WAMIT.rhp “WAMIT import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_WAMIT.rhp “WAMIT Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_OBJ.rhp “Import_OBJ” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_M.rhp “Import_M” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_X.rhp “X Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_LWO.rhp “Lightwave Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_AMF.rhp “Import_AMF” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_3DS.rhp “3D Studio Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_ACAD.rhp “AutoCAD file import: import_ACAD” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_STL.rhp “STL Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_DGN.rhp “MicroStation file import: import_DGN” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_IGES.rhp “IGES Import Plug-in” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_3MF.rhp “export_3MF” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_SKP.rhp “SketchUp Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Import_SVG.rhp “Import_SVG” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Export_OBJ.rhp “export_OBJ” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_VRML.rhp “VRML Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_RAW.rhp “Raw Triangles Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_AI.rhp “Adobe Illustrator Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_CD.rhp “Cult3D Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_OFF.rhp “OFF Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_UDO.rhp “Moray Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_RAW.rhp “RAW Triangle Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_FBX.rhp “Import_FBX” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_X_T.rhp “Parasolid Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/MPlane.rhp “MPlane” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_SolidWorks.rhp “Solidworks Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_STL.rhp “STL Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_STEP.rhp “STEP Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_ACAD.rhp “AutoCAD file export : export_ACAD” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/export_XAML.rhp “export_xaml” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_POV.rhp “POV-Ray Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_SLC.rhp “SLC Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Export_RIB.rhp “Renderman Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_SKP.rhp “SketchUp Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_VDA.rhp “VDA Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Import_GTS.rhp “GTS Triangle Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/import_PLY.rhp “PLY - Polygon File Format Import” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.16.19205.1052
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/export_VRML.rhp “VRML/X3D Export” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/Squish.rhp “Squish” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/MeshFromPoints.rhp “MeshFromPoints” 6.16.19205.1002
/Applications/Rhinoceros.app/Contents/PlugIns/MeshTools.rhp “MeshTools” 6.16.19205.1002

epiphany · August 6, 2019, 2:04pm

nickpledge · August 21, 2019, 4:39am

I get this also. Very frustrating. Any ideas? fixes?

epiphany · August 27, 2019, 12:02pm

bump. Copy/paste feature does not working in Rhino6 / latest SR and nobody cares about it?

Here you have another example @wim

Steps to reproduce:

open both files
copy text from source (.budoar)
paste to destination
= beach ball forever.

Latest SR does not allow to kill Rhino via activity monitor/force quit completely. It never starts again. System needs to be restarted.

Very frustrating.

dan · September 9, 2019, 9:18pm

Thank you for the files and the clear steps to reproduce this. Unfortunately, I am unable reproduce this on my computer.

These are the steps that I’m taking:

Launch Rhino 6 for Mac 6.18.19246.01092 (the latest Service Release Candidate)
Opened source.3dm and destination.3dm.
Selected the .budoar text in source.3dm.
Pressed command+c to Copy.
Switched to destination.3dm
Pressed command+v to Paste.

Everything worked as expected. What - if anything - are we doing differently?

I noticed you have a few third-party kernel extensions loaded:

Third party kernel extensions
com.kairos.driver.DuetDisplay (1) 7620686C-E9CE-3C70-AA12-DC77DABA52DD
com.epson.driver.EPSONProjectorAudio (1.40) B946B28C-3FE2-AB4C-6FDB-605A5518FA6E
ch.tripmode.TripModeNKE (2.0.2) 1D30A109-766F-3620-B617-EA67C07823A9
com.google.drivefs.filesystems.dfsfuse (32.0.11) 6CA2997C-ADC9-3E54-B202-8F49E9F338F6
com.adguard.nfext (25) D036C955-158A-3AAF-86D8-7119896DF0FE

I wonder if you still experience the same hang if you boot to safe mode.

epiphany · September 10, 2019, 5:51am

Hi Dan, It seems that issue is fixed in SR18. Thanks!

Jack_Zeng · April 15, 2020, 7:04am

I am using rhino6 sr19. On different computer, I have the same copy and paste issue. Even though I am just copying one simple curve to another file. It can takes 10 minutes…

Jack_Zeng · April 15, 2020, 8:25am

I am pretty sure it is not because of autosave. And I found that this issue happens more often on a big model, doesn’t matter what you are copying, even just a simple curve, it will sometimes take 10 mins to copy it.

wim · April 15, 2020, 11:55am

Hi - please update to the current 6.24 version and then copy-paste the output of the Rhino SystemInfo command.
-wim

jiaozhu0710 · May 6, 2020, 4:49am

Wim,
I got the same problem on my rhino. Below are the SystemInfo:

Rhino 6 SR25 2020-4-23 (Rhino 6, 6.25.20114.05271, Git hash:master @ f35d7ded15ec317635ced435d8df84327397038d)
License type: Commercial-, build 2020-04-23
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-A7EOSN6

Non-hybrid graphics.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (NVidia) Memory: 6GB, Driver date: 10-24-2019 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 441.12

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel® UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 9-25-2019 (M-D-Y).

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 10-24-2019
Driver Version: 26.21.14.4112
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 6 GB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.25.20114.5271
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.25.20114.5271
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.25.20114.5271
C:\Program Files\Enscape\Bin64\Enscape.Rhino6.Plugin.dll “Enscape.Rhino6.Plugin” 0.0.20048.1746
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.25.20114.5271
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0\Plug-ins\SectionTools (fbdb1d7f-8cfb-42c1-9858-87cb6315932c)\2019.7.29.584\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

wim · May 21, 2020, 10:10am

Hi - it seems that the problems that are described in this thread show different behavior and so I wouldn’t immediately assume that what you are seeing is the same as other things that are mentioned here.

Could you explain in detail what you do and preferably also post the file that are used when doing so?
In all my testing so far, I’ve been unable to trigger any freezing with copy-paste of geometry.
-wim

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