New filename for WIP?

@brian I downloaded today’s WIP from https://www.rhino3d.com/download/rhino-for-windows/wip/ and noticed the filename is rhino_9.0.26111.12305.exe when all previous filenames have been of the form rhino_en-us_9.0.xxxxx.yyyyy.exe.

I also noticed the download page no longer contains a language choice. Is this a goof, or is something changed that I can be curious about?

We’ve moved to a single installer on Windows that includes all languages.

– Dale

Huh. And the file size only went from 634.5 to 652.9 MB? Surprises me! I would have expected quite a bit more.

On the other hand, I suppose ~18 MB is an awful lot of text if you actually think about it.

@dale If you include all languages (and for Italian, also the dialects), that’s another 20 MB, haha :rofl:. In every city you basically find a different language. As someone from central Italy, I can tell you this straight: if you go to the north and hear a Venetian speaking, it sounds like a completely different language—you won’t understand a thing. Same story in the south.

In Italy we joke about this all the time: everyone speaks their own dialect. The only place where you might hear “proper” Italian is in a courtroom… and not even always—often only the judge, because even there some defendants speak in a way that’s impossible to understand, haha :rofl:. There are plenty of ironic videos about it.

Anyway, jokes aside, now it’s clear why the file is called rhino_en-us_9.0.xxxxx.yyyyy.exe.

Hi @dale I also downloaded the new WIP and, after installing it, I assumed it would install the English version. Instead, it installed what seems to be Turkish…

I uninstalled it and then, after reading this post, I imagined that the installer might have a way to choose the language. So I installed it again and verified that English was selected.

Unfortunately, it keeps installing Turkish; it’s strange that the installer chooses a language that is not the Windows language. Is there a quick way to modify the interface language once it is installed?

UPDATE: I could find where to change it, not that easy.

@laborda I encountered the same issue with Italian; I manually switched back to English.

Hi -
I ran into this today as well. Closing Rhino and restarting does not seem to reproduce this issue.
If you find a way to make this happen, please let us know.
-wim

To make it happen again, you just need to reset. Today I showed a video where I performed a reset due to a CPlane bug in Rhino WIP, and you moved the topic to the general Rhino section. I’ve confirmed that the bug absolutely exists.

I had recorded a video before the reset, and after the reset Rhino switched back to Italian as the language. In all of this, I also discovered a new bug in the CPlane commands ahahahah — it honestly makes me laugh. And then there’s always someone repeating the same two memorized sentences about how CPlane is supposed to work — I’m not someone who has been using Rhino for two weeks, but for years.

This issue didn’t exist before. In fact, after resetting Rhino, the bug disappears and when I set the World CPlanes, only the CPlane changes, not my point of view. However, in the long video I uploaded this morning on YouTube, you can clearly see multiple times that modifying the CPlane also changes the point of view: any CPlane command I use flips the Z axis when switching between isometric and perspective views.

On top of that, I also found a CPlane command that simply doesn’t work ahahahah.

Another thing: I noticed that when pressing F1 there is no explanation at all for the World CPlanes. It would be useful to include a proper explanation and a video, like in other command descriptions, so that even less experienced users can understand the behavior of the command by watching it in action.

@wim And please, add to the Grid command what I’ve been saying from the beginning: the option to display the X, Y, and Z axes. What is it for? To quickly understand what’s happening with the CPlane, especially along the Z axis. Regardless of everything else, I can assure you it’s useful—like in this case—to clearly see what’s going on with the CPlane. Don’t treat this suggestion as something minor.
Going into the settings and having to look for the Z-axis checkbox for every single viewport—what’s the point? When I turn it on or off, I want it applied to all views globally. If needed, I’ll decide myself whether to show or hide a specific axis.

Does anyone really uses Rhino not in English?

Like, it is even hard to find help with the command names being in Portuguese :stuck_out_tongue:

I use English for all other programs thus makes moving to another software much easier. English to native language may not has right translation too :slight_smile:

Thanks for reporting this bug. We recently changed Rhino for Windows to install all languages in one installer. This problem likely has something to do with Rhino’s detection of your system language. I’ve logged:

RH-95013 Rhino starts in wrong language

Yes, but not on this forum.

Well, people may post here in English (mostly), but I also see a lot of screenshots from users who are running Rhino in non-English languages.

Do you mean that it actually installs all languages, or that the installer contains all available languages so that only the desired one(s) may be installed on the user’s computer?

I’ve actually already put out of my mind the details of what happened when I installed my English language version, so don’t remember if the installer asked me what language I wanted. However it was an update, not a fresh install so maybe it just installs the existing language by default?

Yeah sorry, sometimes we get stuck in the reflex of the bubble we are used to.

RH-95013 is fixed in Rhino WIP