Move ModelView Karamba

Hello,

I want to move my model view so that I am able to have a model which only shows supports and joints. When I try to move the ModelView component, it only moves the loads and not the supports and Joints. Is it possible to move this somehow?
As you can see, the supports “stays” on the first model view.

Hello @Linda_Luu,

thanks for your bug report!

I tested moving a Model. In version K3D 3.1.40320-WIP the move-operation works after assembling the model but not after solving it for displacements (see Model_Move.gh (29.1 KB)). I will check whether this can be remedied. What version of Karamba3D did you use?

Best,
Clemens

Hello Clemens,

Thanks for checking it out. I used this version of Karamba3D.

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Dear Clemens,

I´ve just observed a similar “moving models” related issue.

When you move a fully assembled model (including all supports, loads and elements) you can perform computations (e.g. Analyse or AnalyseThII) flawlessly. However, if you disassemble first the “moved model” (using Disassemble Model component) and then reassemble it (using Model Assemble component), this latter component complains saying that:

Could not find node at (0/-3.7500000000000004/77.15) where point-load number 0 is attached.
[…]

I´ve observed that wherease the Supports positions are properly moved, the Loads positions are not. I hope this helps to improve your awesome software!

Is there any other K3D version not affected?

Thanks!!

PS: Tested in Karamba3D 3.1.51222.0

Hi, are you able to share the definition?

Hi Matthew, thanks for your quick response.

I´ve prepared this definition MovingModelsK3Dissue.gh (46.2 KB) to facilitate debuging:

Note that whereas the support coordintaes are properly updated (see Supports panel), the force application points are not (see Forces panel). Therefore, the Assemble component cannot find the corresponding nodes and complains.

Thanks for your help!

Hi, you should use the modify model component to move the model, and not simply move the model

Hi Matthew, thanks for your quick response and sorry for my delayed answer.

MovingModelsK3Dissue2.gh (52.7 KB)

I think that despite your solution works (option 1 in the selcted Stream Filter component), it is not necessary to move a model and be able to Analyse them (option 2).

In any case, I cannot to Disassemble and re-Assemble them once they have been moved (which is what I really need for some other more complex definition not-shared), since the Assemble component always complains in the same way for any of the three options.

I still think that there might be some issue with the loads attached to the models because, they do not seem to update as expected upon motion. Am I missing something?

Sorry if I did not understood you well and thanks for your help!

Now I see the problem in the DisassembleModel component. I have made a bug report and we will look into this: BUG: Loads are not adapted when Moving or Modifying a Model · Issue #151 · karamba3d/K3D_NightlyBuilds