Hello,
I’ve gone through everything that I found on this thread to try to fix my missing shadows in my rendered view, but still no luck. Could I get some help as to what could possibly going on? I’ve attached screenshots in case it helps.
maybe you have some objects deeper down making your ground plane not show up where you might expect it. this or you turned off your light in the general section, but since you have some shading i assume its the ground plane. try making a manual plane under your slabs.
I just double checked and there isn’t anything blocking my ground plane. I also tried creating the surface under the extrusions, but still no luck.
I’m attaching a screenshot with the lights tab showing on the left; I think this is what you are referring to, and everything seems to be turned on.
I’m also attaching the Rhino file incase you can take a look… I’m an advanced Rhino user so I don’t think I’ve made any rookie mistakes, but who knows!
missing shadows.3dm (57.4 KB)
Your rendered mode looks off by quite a bit. You should reset the Rendered mode settings (restore defaults for it). If that still doesn’t help you should run the Rhino command _SystemInfo and post the resulting text here for further diagnose help.
i dont see any new screenshot other than the shadows which you have turned on. i meant this setting
you might have turned lighting off all together there. there is nothing wrong with your file otherwise.
Tried restoring settings, still nothing. Here are the results from _SystemInfo:
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Yes, I had already checked that and changed it to see if it was the problem. It’s something else that’s acting up. Thank you though.
Did the shadows work in Rendered mode for you in Rhino 8 at any point?
Hey Nathan,
Sorry for the delayed reply. I’m believe they did… how come?
If they worked in Rhino 8 before you probably need to reset your settings. Maybe you should do a full reset using the Rhino command _Reset and see if that brings shadows back for you.
So I reset it, I created a new file, and it worked.
However, when I went to the file where I originally identified the problem, I still couldn’t get any shadows. I did a few experimentes and figured this out which is shown in the screenshots, in order:
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I create a box in a new file and the shadows work fine.
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I paste something from the original problematic file into the new file and the shadows disappear (even if I paste just a point as you can see in the pictures).
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I move that point closer to the object where I want the shadows, and they start working again.
Do you have an explanation for this? If I can figure out why this happens then I can fix the file with all my work on it.
In case anyone else is having the same problem with Rhino 8 for Mac:
After many, many, many tries to fix this, I have concluded that it is due to a bug. I will be using Rhino 7 until the updates with the bug fixes come out.
try this-
export your problematic model as an iges or step file-
then import it into a new blank model and try your rendering. Any better, or does it still misbehave?
if it’s good, simply continue from there and assume there is something corrupted in your misbehaving file.
if it continues to misbehave then we can logically conclude there is something deeper going on.
hello to all, i have a very same problem with rhino recently, i model the landscape and architecture elements in rhino as a part of my job to be able to understand the spatial composition and how much shadow the greenery and the buildings cast on the land in diffrent times of the year, the problem im facing is that after finishing modelling and setting all the properties for the shadow section some or all the elements do not show the shadow on the model although i set all the settings correct in the rendering and the layers, i tried to transfer the model into a new file but still the problem insists with some elements or the shadows are inaccurate, would you mind tellin g me if you were able to detect the root of this problem? it keeps happening in every new model i make and i havent been able to put a finger on it, i use Rhino 7 by the way
Hi Enea -
Please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste its output here.
-wim
what mode are you using? if you are using rendered mode, make sure to reset your rendered mode to defaults-
Also as Wim said, we need to see the results of running the systeminfo command in Rhino to see if there are any hardware issues.
hello, thank you for your respons.
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i have set all the required options and tried also reseting all the defaults. it still wont work
to add abit of more contex, the very same file that i modeled when copy pasted in a new file and moved to point zero casts shadow in the computer of my collegue. we use the same license and same installation file. i did reinstal my rhino once more and the problem persists. in the beginning we thought its because of the big scale of the model because with just one layer of the model like the trees or the terrain the shadows are working but when i copy more layers to the new file its not functioning again. its very strange.
You are 15 service release behind. You may want to update to the latest Rhino 7 service release.