Dear all,
When I use the create 2D drawing command to get the outlines from a surface that is a picture/picture plane, I don’t see the 2D-lines Rhino calculated. Strangely, these lines are somewhere there, because when I move or drag the created 2d Drawing for the first time around, they shortly appear during the movement. Furthermore, they can normally be seen on other computers from Co-Workers (same Rhino-version). So, I guess this has to be a checkbox somewhere in the settings that I just can’t find… No problems with regular surfaces, it’s just the pictures, that won’t get displayed.
Any help is much appreciated - thanks a lot!
Hi Robert -
I’m afraid I’m not seeing / understanding what this is about. Could you please provide a 3dm file that illustrates what you are doing?
-wim
Hi @Robert_Rüf
I’m seeing the same thing - something is off. @wim See the attached video and notice how the Make2D result shows the outline of the pictureplane as I try to move the Make2D in the top viewport - but the outline doesn’t display. And then, as I select the other objects and invert the selection, it selects those invisible curves, but they are still nowhere to be seen. File attached, although it’s should be simple to replicate.
make2D pictureplane outline bug.3dm (505.1 KB)
HTH, Jakob
PS I guess it’s because the edges of pictureplanes have a “do not display”-tag, but it should be ignored by make2D or the edges should not be generated.
Hi Jakob -
When I open your file in Rhino 8.22 here, this is what I see in the Top viewport:
Is that not what you are seeing?
-wim
Hi @wim
Nope! As you can see in the video, the Make2D result of the pictureplane are invisible curves. Very strange - sysinfo for reference. I just tried to see if could get the curves to display by changing thickness, line type etc. Nothing seems to work. If I SelCrv and Rebuild, the curves also show up in the preview, but disappear as the rebuild completes. Note the position of the gumball on the first screengrab - it indicates that the curves are selected, but not visible. On the second screengrab you can see that the curves are there.
System Info
Rhino 8 SR22 2025-8-5 (Rhino 8, 8.22.25217.12451, Git hash:master @ 96429e6361004c775cd83973f2148f3943b5e512)
License type: Commercial, build 2025-08-05
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 95GB)
.NET 8.0.14
Computer platform: DESKTOP
Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000 (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 1-26-2025 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 572.16
Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port #0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 1-26-2025
Driver Version: 32.0.15.7216
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.22.25217.12451
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
C:\Users\jn\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\8.0\PanelingTools\2024.8.20.677\PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools”
-Jakob
Edit: V7 Make2D result for reference
Hi Jakob -
Thanks. That is weird.
Pulling straws - what happens when you move the objects to a different layer?
Also, can you run Rhino from a new scheme with factory-default settings to see if that makes this go away?
-wim
Hi @wim
That worked! So I guess it’s a setting that both @Robert_Rüf and I have somehow changed 
Do you know of a way to compare the XML-files for the two schemes to find the difference (other than going through them “manually”, of course)?
-Jakob
Hi Jakob -
I’m afraid not, no. I’ve been asking for such tool myself. I paste them into (something like) Excel and use that to find differences.
Note that only changes from the defaults are written to the .xml files…
-wim
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