Losing disk space on every time I use Rhino 6

Hello,

I’m having a problem with the drive usage space, on every time I use Rhino, the free space is getting smaller and smaller, I tried to clean all the temps folders, cache, used the CCleaner and so on, but I cannot find where are missing the (now it is) 8gb of free space, that I had before.
Whenever I use the Rhino, the free space decreases.
I am using also the Vray, but even when I am not touching in this plugin, the space steadily decreases…

Can someone help me on this before I run out of space? Thanks

Wonder if it’s your autosave files - now they are stored in the trash instead of being deleted… Check there maybe?

Rhino’s Autosave files are now moved to the Windows Recycle Bin.
Is yours filling up?
I can not recommend use of CCleaner or anything similar.

With the low cost of storage, why are you living with so little room?

I always empty the recycle bin, and as I mention, not only I clean manually all the temps folders that I could find,I also use CCleaner to help me on this task.
About buying a new disk, even if I would have 1TB of free space, by this rate, I would run out of space in 6 months… Because I already lost 8Gb of space in just one week of work with Rhino. My file size is around 200Mb.

Maybe you just need a bigger disk. You can get a 4TB (4194304 MB) disk drive for around $70US

That does not answer why did fly away 8gb or more of space with just one working file of 200Mb…

Have you tried purging your TEMP folder?

is clean

I have seen a few cases with Vray where material definitions were being duplicated and saved multiple times within a file.
It is file specific and specific to Vray.

If you look at a 3dm file size, open it, do a couple small things, then save it, is the file itself getting a lot larger?

This was the symptom we were seeing.

As I recall this was some time ago, right? That we were seeing Vray related file bloat? I believe a new version fixed all that… @ripedro - what version of Vray do you have? Can you please run SystemInfo in Rhino and post the results?

-Pascal

I am using the last version Vray, is in demo mode, because I am learning to work with it in Rhino.
Maybe can be a clue, there was a moment before this last Rhino release (2 days ago), it was crashing a lot, many times I could not find a direct relation with Vray, but there was always something telling me that could be Vray causing those craches. Today no crash has happen.

Here is the System info:
Rhino 6 SR13 2019-2-27 (Rhino 6, 6.13.19058.371, Git hash:master @ 17cd8b51accbe17dd04b48028f49d5e77a67f17b)
License type: Educational, build 2019-02-27
License details: Stand-Alone

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 12Gb)

Hybrid graphics system.
Primary display: Intel® HD Graphics 4600 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-10-2016 (M-D-Y).
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M (NVidia) Memory: 2GB, Driver date: 1-23-2018 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.77

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 1-23-2018
Driver Version: 23.21.13.9077
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 2 GB

Rhino plugins
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 6.13.19058.371
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 6.13.19058.371
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 6.13.19058.371
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 6.13.19058.371
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros 6\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp “Calc”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp “Named Position”

Hello - is any of the Rhino files unexpectedly large?

-Pascal

could you help me to find it out?

Hello - please run Audit3dmFIle and locate one of the files you’ve been working with - post the results here…

-Pascal

Testing 3dm Archive: D:…\Vector\Planta da casa V1_2-2.3dm
Start Section: 453 bytes (offset 0 to 453)
Offset: 0
3dm archive version: 60
Interface Name: Rhinoceros 6.12 - Educational, build 2019-01-29 - (compiled Jan 29 2019)
SDK Version: 2348836105.2351983977
OpenNURBS Version: 2351983977
3dm Version: 6
Operating System: Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater, 64-bit, platform 0, version 10.0 build 0 sp 0.0, suite 0, product type 0
Runtime: ON::RuntimeEnvironment::Windows 3DM I/O processor: OpenNURBS toolkit version 2351983977 (compiled on Jan 29 2019)

Properties Section: 253145 bytes (offset 453 to 253598)
3dm archive openNURBS version: 2351983977 (6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Application Information:
Name: “Rhinoceros 6”
URL: “http://www.rhino3d.com
Details: “Educational, build 2019-01-29”
Revision History:
Create Time: Saturday December 08 09:33:27 2018 UCT
Last Edit Time: Saturday March 02 14:47:03 2019 UCT
Revision Count: 160
Created By: “…”
Last Edit By: “…”
Settings Section: 41995 bytes (offset 253598 to 295593)
Model length unit system: centimeters
Page length unit system: millimeters
Plug-ins:
Name: 3Dconnexion 3D Mouse
Version: 6.12.19029.06381
Id: DCA0DB8D-844C-48d6-BA97-F5595FE6AFDB
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: AnimationTools
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:58:04
Id: 3AA81848-5635-41bb-ABDB-0EC069BC5519
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Calc
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:58:01
Id: F967607D-DFDC-497e-9FA6-28ACEDD332C7
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Calc.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Commands
Version: 6.12.19029.6381
Id: 02BF604D-799C-4cc2-830E-8D72F21B14B7
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp
SDK Version: .NET 0.0
Name: Displacement
Version: Jan 29 2019 07:00:24
Id: F293DE5C-D1FF-467a-9BD1-CAC8EC4B2E6B
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Named Position
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:59:37
Id: FCEA57AE-7C24-4bc5-A067-1DFFA6139859
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedPositions.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: RDK_EtoUI
Version: 6.12.19029.6381
Id: 638A0098-0511-482b-95BF-8CF47FD32C17
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp
SDK Version: .NET 0.0
Name: Renderer Development Kit
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:56:03
Id: 16592D58-4A2F-401d-BF5E-3B87741C1B1B
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Renderer Development Kit UI
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:57:32
Id: 67755633-23FD-4ac5-A18C-C1F14F0AB05D
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Rhino Bonus Tools
Version: Jan 29 2019 06:59:22
Id: 213A2661-A9EC-4ac4-867A-BC8CABE5AE29
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Rhino Render
Version: 1.50, Jan 29 2019, 06:57:11
Id: 5DC0192D-73DC-44f5-9141-8E72542E792D
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: RhinoCycles
Version: 6.12.19029.6381
Id: 9BC28E9E-7A6C-4b8f-A0C6-3D05E02D1B97
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp
SDK Version: .NET 0.0
Name: RPC
Version: Jan 29 2019 07:03:06
Id: 1F908FF5-4984-45a6-95F0-A81CE979A4D7
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Snapshots
Version: Jan 29 2019 07:01:30
Id: 73B88F43-C32C-4306-93B5-1D0082FFFEE8
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2351983977 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.12 2019-01-29:1)
Name: Toolbars
Version: 6.12.19029.6381
Id: DC297053-96C0-4883-A688-8326B4E024A8
File: C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp
SDK Version: .NET 0.0
Name: V-Ray for Rhino
Version: 3.60.03 adv ( Jul 3 2018 )
Id: E8CFE179-B60C-411a-8416-62A893334519
File: C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros 6\VRayForRhino.rhp
SDK Version: C++ 2348836105.2350148005 (6.0 2017-08-15:1, 6.5 2018-06-04:1)
Embedded image Table:
EmbeddedImage[0]: D:\Users\Obras\Bitmaps\Casa R José Dias Coelho Plantas 2o andar.jpg
EmbeddedImage[1]: D:\Obras\Bitmaps\Prédio José Dias Coelho 30 - 2º Andar.jpg
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Material Table:
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material[3]: window1
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Linetype Table:
0 linetypes, 24 bytes (offset 3445384 to 3445408)
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=) can you just post a text file?

-Pascal

Oh! Sorry!
File Audict.txt (117.2 KB)

So, the file itself does not seem to be the problem, from what I can see. If you block VRay in Options > Plug-ins page and then restart Rhino do you see the disk space being eaten up as before?

-Pascal

OMG! This is geting even more weird…
I made now some tests: One week ago I had 21Gb of free space.
Now, when I started to do the testing I had 13.2GB; First test, I open the same file in which today morning I had +/-15Gb space free, made a VRay render of a scene. Finished, save it and close Rhino. Final result = 13.2 GB. Second test: I followed your instructions… Final result = 13.1GB, but maybe this small difference is also related with the internet browser, where I am writing this post.

Hello Ripedro,

When you save your files do you get the *.3dmbak files ?

Thank you,

Andy