Lenovo P1 vs Gigabyte AERO. Which one to choose?

Trying to decide. Will use it for Architecture (drafting CAD, Revit and Rendering Rhino + Vray) plus editing photos and occasionally video. Need good screen. Both are around $1600 (used) Specs:

Gigabyte AERO 15.6" OLED, i7-9750H, 16GB RAM 512GB SSD, RTX 2060

ThinkPad P1 Gen 2 Workstation 4K IPS i7-9750H, T2000,32G RAM

Its a game between which graphic card would work better and additional ram. Advice?

For word processing and spreadsheets, either will do fine.

I would go with the Gigabyte model. Their mobos are tough as steel vs every ThinkPad I’ve ever used has been slow and cludgy. Ultimately its not how much but how well built the mobo is that matters.

I see what you’re doing there. But you’re downplaying these laptop too much. If MacBooks are used for light renderings these days so can these…

What’s a mobo?

I have read heard many things about Rhino on a Macbook Pro, but not contentment, so far. I hope you get some feedback from ultra-book users.

mobo = mother board. (The thing that everything is attached to :wink: )

The T2000 is a pro version (quadro) of the GTX 1650 so it is a good card, but the RTX 2060 has more raw power and more cuda cores for rendering.
32GB ram will only be a bonus if you need more than 16. So hard to say. Depends on your needs.

The Gigabyte has a more gamy look while the lenovo is more business like… And personally I don’t see the point in having 4k on a laptop, but it is either fullHD or 4k these days. I would much rather have a brilliant full HD screen than a cheap 4k though, so test them out.

Would T2000 be in any way better then GTX 2060? I really do like the lenovo look over gigabyte but graphics do play a big role.

I had a Lenovo Thinkpad (not a P1). It had a proprietary rectangular power socket, rather than the traditional round one, mounted directly on the motherboard. The socket wore out in under 18 months. Wear not a warranty item so repair suggested by Lenovo - a mobo swap - would have cost over £700. Couldn’t source the proprietary socket separately to get around it. Laptop was a write off.
Consider ease of repair, such as $5 sockets being on ribbon cables, if you can.

Frankly I don’t know, and since Holomark3 isn’t done yet I don’t have data to compare them with either.
Quadro USED to be better at handling huge meshes and AA’ing tons of curves, but if that game has changed with Rhino 6 I don’t know. Personally I have used GTX and now RTX cards for years.

(Quadro’s used to be massively better at handling doublesided drawing of meshes, so that might still be the case, so I can’t give any advice on that yet, so test for your self :slight_smile: )

Just sharing what happened to me,

I had a basic lenovo laptop for web and office stuff, it came with windows 8.1, but it was kinda slow to my taste.

I installed Ubuntu on it, got a message in the lines of “This hardware is for use with Windows only, please contact support to restore your device” or something like that. They wouldn’t help me because I bought it from used store, and they said they don’t support that.

So yeah, despite it being a cheap bought, I will never touch a Lenovo again, ever…

If you can scratch a bit more money together make sure you check out the asus zenbook pro duo. Really nice computer. I bought a lenovo recently and am regretting it. The asus is way better.

Why the regrets with Lenovo? Which model? Asus is nice but not a fan of double screen.

I would go with the Gigabyte Aero! Better graphics and thermals…RTX2060 will serve you good for CAD work and rendering (if you plan on using Vray or any other engine that uses CUDA cores). Furthermore, I would not recommend 4k anything unless you are dwelling into photo or video editing.

Mr A.

As for Lenovo… the sales reps were basically uninformed on the model (P53) and assured me that I’d be able to just move my 2.5" physical hard disk over from my P50. Even sold me the adapter/cable kit. When the computer arrived it had spots for 3 SSDs but no 2.5… So I had to go out and spend another $500 on SSDs and waste time messing around setting up a network share and transferring 2TB of files.

As for the computer itself… It’s alright. The thermals aren’t great and It’s basically throttling the CPU all the time while doing anything at all productive really. The SSD they included as the boot drive is absurdly noisy.

I agree with Mr.A. about avoiding 4K display if you can. Will really slow down your user experience in Rhino more than the extra sharpness is worth.

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The P1 Gen 2 im looking at does seem to have good thermal management. But how would the 4k slow down rhino experience? Isnt everything just more clear? Where’s the slowdown coming from and would’t it be easy to just switch resolution to 1080p?

The slowdown is because your hardware has to render 4x as many pixels in the viewport. You can turn the resolution down but it won’t look as good as a native 1080 display.

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is it something noticeable or can you live with it or the resolution down? I do prefer the 4k screen but now curious how much of an annoyance will it really be?

Well… My P50 was 4k and I disliked it enough that I got a standard 1080 display on the new one.

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As many smart persons before me have pointed out - it really depends on your workflow.

I am currently running msi gs65 with rtx 2060 and 16 gb ram. It is a great computer. I bought it just when it came out. and Desktop with ryzen2700x,Rx480 video card , 32 gb of ram with two 32’’ screens.

My experience so far is that I cant feel computing advantage on any of them. (in more than 1 year working.) If I was looking now for a new laptop I would go with quality build in 14’’ size that has decent battery life. 14’’ in my experience is easier to handle.
my experience so far with components

  • RAM - 16 gb enough have used 32 gb only when i did a mistake in Illustrator
  • SCREEN In most case i work on desktop as it has 2x 32’’ screens with 2k res.
    would not recommend to go higher than 2k for large screen and 1080p for a laptop as many programs will be unusable in native res, like REVIT. work with 2 screens is more productive especially in Grasshopper
  • cpu - twill say that for a heavy task I will always go with a desktop.
  • Video card Would not suggest to go with Quadro card or any pro card for architectural workflow as they currently have a real advantage only in engineering workflows and they cost a lot more for gaming cards performance level. I am using Enscape and Twinmotion for rendering and for that Vram is important as that will allow to load bigger projects
    laptop benefits
  • Fast
  • 16 gb is more than enough for laptop
  • Good video card for real-time rendering
    and VR experience
  • build quality - keyboard deck is flexing
  • the battery holds only 3 h max during light tasks
  • for long work, I always use external screens.
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