Layer change and cursor slowness

VisualARQ
1

I don’t know if it’s more about Rhino or VisualARQ but the layer change takes way too long and there is a significant lag behind the cursor movement when trying to place a door.

System Info

Rhino 8 SR4 2024-2-6 (Rhino 8, 8.4.24037.15001, Git hash:master @ bee9cb852c752350676ca6bc7f3f6946b5bbc6b7)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-02-06
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET Framework 4.8.9181.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [97% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 5-24-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.98
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 11GB, Driver date: 5-24-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.98
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 6-15-2023 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 5-24-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3598
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 11520 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 5.3.2.0
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\VisualARQ.rhp “VisualARQ”
C:\Users\Czaja\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\23.6.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 23.6.0.0
C:\Users\Czaja\Desktop\Rhino_7_Win_2023.0417\HDRLightStudioTexture.rhp “HDRLightStudioTexture”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\Crayon (39629248-4fa6-47b8-83c7-745a7efea259)\1.2.0.0\Crayon\Crayon.rhp “Crayon” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IdleProcessor.rhp “IdleProcessor”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.4.24037.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

2

Hi @Czaja,

Have you opened any Grasshopper documents in this Rhino session? Have you opened a VisualARQ document with Grasshopper styles?

There is a known bug in Grasshopper for Rhino 8: each time a Grasshopper document is opened (even if it’s in the background like in VisualARQ GH styles), a mesh provider is registered, which slows down Rhino viewports, especially the first draw. Closing the documents doesn’t help, as the mesh provider keeps registered. The more GH documents opened, the slower the Rhino display will be.

There are similar reports:

I’ve already reported this issue to McNeel and David is already looking into it:
https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-80348/Slow-selection-and-lags-when-rotating-view

Enric

3

Hi, actually I didn’t. Grasshopper is loaded, but it’s a fresh Rhino instance with only default Styles loaded. I also noticed some cursor slowness without using Visual ARQ, so you are probably right, that this might be a Rhino problem.

4

Can you block Grasshopper in the plugin manager, restart Rhino, and try again?

Enric

5

Tested. There is no cursor drag anymore after disabling the Grasshopper, but layer change is as slow as it was.

6

OK

Then I guess the lag is probably related to the Grasshopper bug. I hope David fixes it soon.

Do you mean changing the current layer or the layer for an object?
Does it happen only when VisualARQ is loaded?
Can you show me a video of the layer change?

Enric

7

When I invoke the vaDoor command then my current (Default) layer changes to the Door layer and it takes quite long. It’s visible in the Layers Panel on the right portion of my screen. There is a small yellow blink showing when I click on the door icon, after that you can see the cursor freeze for a moment as I try to drag it around. Also, looking at the Layers panel you can calculate the time difference between clicking at the Door icon and Door layer activation.