Intel Arc Graphics, How does it perform?

My laptop returned a black screen after a windows update.
I’m reinstalling windows, but was thinking it’s time.
Looking around and as RTX’s are pretty expensive, was thinking how Rhino performs fn Intel Arc.
Usually spend most of my time in shaded mode.
Any real life reviews?
Is the support official? (won’t crash?)

Hi Toshiaki -

Windows ARM versions are not supported.
Depending on the drivers that you are running, Rhino will either always crash on start-up or just not perform as you would like.
We are actively working on trying to get those to work…
-wim

Keep on mind that Rhino uses OpenGL on Windows.

– Dale

Intel Arc Graphics are GPUs, not ARM CPUs. Nothing to do with Windows ARM versions.

Arc supports OpenGL right?
Just not performing well as nvidia you mean?

FYI.

The situation has no doubt changed by now.

I thought the instability I was having was stricly an Arc problem. But even afterwards I was suffering the same problem with my newer Nvidia GPU, only Rhino crashed out hard instantly with similar operations.

If you are having issues, you can raise tickets in the “Intel Insiders” discord, and I think they also have a Git location to raise tickets.

Up to December I would have said always generally buy an Nvidia. However given thier low-level trend of setting on fire, crashing, bricking themselves, and black-screening nowadays… who knows.

Be careful what you buy in terms of Arc, as modern offerings come in two flavours; laptops with discrete Arc GPUs (separate to CPU), and those that are on things like Meteor Lake, where there is an integrated Arc GPU “tile” that is not as strong.

For the first generation Arc GPUs (Alchemist), they can generally be found in either flavour. Second generation (Battlemage, Xe2) has no known discrete mobile application, except where it is contained as an integrated GPU on the efficiency-focused Lunar Lake CPUs. You probably wouldn’t want a Lunar Lake CPU for Rhino, but they should work.

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Thanks for the info!

The ARC graphic PC I was looking at was integrated GPU. Thanks for the advice.

I think I’ll pay that extra few hundred bucks for RTX4060 laptop for now.

Thanks again!

The recently announced B50 ARC card coming out later this year looks very interesting for Rhino desktop machines;

16GB of VRAM, four monitor support and no extra power requirements plus the RRP is usd299.

This is the top of my list as an upgrade in my Lenovo P520 which currently has a 4GB Quadro card.

Cheers

DK

I know it’s off-topic, but do you guys have any plans to support Vulkan? I heard it can offer a lot of performance improvements. :slight_smile:

@gurkan_bozkurt - no plans at this time.

– Dale

Note, this would be currently useless for any GPU rendering in Rhino. The Rhino 8 Cycles Intel OneAPI/Embree code (equivalent to Nvidia’s CUDA/OpitX) is not yet functional/dead. You would not have the option to raytrace render on such a device.

With this card, you would have to export it to Blender to use the GPU function, or use a CPU fallback.