New Surface Laptops with ARM - RH8

Anyone know if Mcneel have intentions to make rhino run natively on ARM and not emulated (which is what i thought rhino for mac is doing)?

The new surface laptops sound nice, but curious to know how they will run CAD software. (The new surface laptops will ship with ARM processors)

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Thanks :slight_smile:

From graphics performance, I think Adreno on SD X Plus and X Elite would be on par with Intel Iris Xe.

RTX 3050 Ti is around twice (if not even faster) the performance of Xe graphics. But many rendering engines depend on GPU like Radeon, Geforce and higher classes for productivity.

There are still many unclear benchmark info as many reported that they were not allowed to do own benchmarking when the product was launched, and even at new Surface launch event.

I’m personally still a bit sceptic on the graphics performance wise on X Plus or X Elite. But if they were talking about battery life, I think nothing beats ARM at this time being. However, for many that are using ASUS laptops with Armoury Crate, there is G-helper (you could easliy find it through searching the web) that is helping in controlling TDP, manually, that would impact the battery life up to double the span. I’m not promoting ASUS nor ROG at this point as both carry their own problems that require workaround, but abandoning Armoury Crate and using G-helper definitely extends the battery life.

Ouch …

Any updated information from McNeel on this question?

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I have an ARM Surface Laptop, and am trying to run Rhino in emulation mode. Rhino launches, but each time I create an object (box, sphere, surface) I can see the “preview” object that is displayed during the operation (i.e. selecting the height, width of the box), but the program crashes when “completing” the object. Tried running the .exe with various emulation settings (safe, strict, etc)… no love. Also tried running in “compatibility mode” for Windows 8. Nope!

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I should add… Rhino 7 works fine, but when I open a Rhino 7 file that contains geometry in Rhino 8, it also crashes.

Hi @Cadesign_Base,

Currently, Rhino is only available (natively) for Intel-based systems on Windows.

– Dale

With more ARM based laptops now running free in the wild, any hint that it might be looked into? Nah? Cant say? Stop asking questions?

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Running natively on ARM and not crashing are two different things. The crashes being reported are most likely due to poor OpenGL drivers for these computers. If there are any OpenGL driver updates available for these computers, I would recommend starting there to see if it fixes the situation. I do know some users are running Rhino on ARM based Windows computers.

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Finally Rhino8 works on my new Surface 11. I had to update my graphic card manually (not only the windows update) and change my Rhino setting (View → OpenGL) from Max OpenGl to OpenGL 3.3.
I can do nearly anything, there is only one Problem: If I want so insert a picture it is only black (or with lower OpenGL setting white). Can anyone help me with this problem?

Out of curiosity, how did you update your graphics card?

Hi -

I’ve put this on the list as RH-84820 Display: Black Pictures on Windows ARM PC
-wim

An internet search led me to a driver on www.dell.com for Qualcomm Adreno X1-85.

https://www.dell.com/support/home/de-at/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=g6ymd&msockid=33c7eb5d2ea06df62879ffab2f796cc7