I'm sure you can do better than this

[Helvetosaur]

Only Rhino 8 is open. I updated my video driver 5 minutes ago…

– Discussing with someone Thursday night, there is the theory that the license message is spurious because it’s just a text string somewhere that wasn’t edited correctly and has both V8 and V7 in it. As V7 also shows me the following:

Why should V7 know anything about a V8 license??

At least V7 gets the video driver thing correct - no message.

Once V7 is open I do see this:

[John_Brock]

The video driver notification is shown if the driver date is more than 2 months old. There are no smart analytics associated with it.
Nvidia doesn’t update the drivers for my old Quadro very often so I ignore the notification.

Mostly it’s handy to bring to the attention of people with drivers that are VERY old.

[Helvetosaur]

@John_Brock

The video driver notification is shown if the driver date is more than 2 months old.

The driver itself is from 24.01.2024… i.e. three days ago…

[John_Brock]

Then something is wrong with the logic.
I’ll try to reproduce it and file a defect report.
Thanks

[Helvetosaur]

Just so you know I’m not making stuff up here:

[Gijs (Gijs de Zwart)]

@Helvetosaur

V7 also shows me the following:

thanks Mitch,
I added this thread to RH-78404 Rhino 7 and 8 both show notifications on licenses of Rhino 7 and 8

[anon (am)]

@John_Brock

The video driver notification is shown if the driver date is more than 2 months old. There are no smart analytics associated with it.
Nvidia doesn’t update the drivers for my old Quadro very often so I ignore the notification.

Mostly it’s handy to bring to the attention of people with drivers that are VERY old.

Rhino should let me retain my UI settings, including those for the Notification panel, even if you have a good reason to deny it.

In my case, I claim McNeel doesn’t have a good reason to deny it, yet Rhino 8 continues to claim another docking area’s worth of the screen with this bell thing.

(What is so special about two months’ age on a graphics card company’s drivers? Is 61 days better? How about 59? Who is to say, McNeel or NVidia?)

I beg you, let us turn this Notifications panel off and leave it off.

SystemInfo

Rhino 8 SR4 2024-1-23 (Rhino 8, 8.4.24023.15001, Git hash:master @ e0f90d20c78f2125a0ec9cfffc9d9decbc052c01)
License type: Evaluation, build 2024-01-23
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2024-03-04

Windows 10 (10.0.17134 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [95% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P2000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 12-1-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.99
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P2000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 12-1-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 537.99
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics P630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 2-18-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device. Laptop lid is probably closed

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 12-1-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3799
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.4.24023.15001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

Driver notifications - how new does it have to be?

Still coming up here… [image]

Download install trial version Rhino 7

When Rhino detects “stale” display drivers, a message is sent to the Notifications Panel. That was our compromise solution to issuing a warning without causing a bigger issue. Additionally, Jeff made some huge improvements to SystemInfo. As an example, if you are lucky enough to have a nice Desktop with a good GPU, but misguided enough to have not attached a monitor to is, so are not really even using the good GPU, we tell you that. I can’t tell you the huge number of systems, many company IT …

Rhino 6.22 - stupid notification

This is nothing new, the other day I installed the latest driver for my card and the notifications panel said it was 34 days old.

Rhino 8 Beta opens two notifications panels

The 8 beta opens a floating Notifications panel on start up as well as updating my permanently docked panel. Given the boring nature of most notifications, I really don’t need to see them twice! [image]

[Helvetosaur]

@anon

yet Rhino 8 continues to claim another docking area’s worth of the screen with this bell thing.

It only claims a tab if you have it in a container with other panels… Mine is docked with Properties and Display.

[anon (am)]

I tried to make a short gif showing this but failed to bring it in under the 4mb max. But here’s a screenshot instead. Blank gray bar shows up on the right when the Notifications panel becomes the second “panel” in the “container” (did I get the terms right?) that showed only Properties when I last closed Rhino.

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[skysurfer]

Just to say I’m experiencing the same.

It also looks like the notification panel keep popping up while I’m offline. Is this a new behaviour?

Thanks to take care of It.

[Helvetosaur]

Yes, if you have a container with only one panel docked, I guess there will be no tabs.

I have my tabs horizontal, so it doesn’t much matter to me.

But you’re right, if the notifications panel is closed, it shouldn’t automatically open. Or at least have a setting that allows you to choose which kinds of notifications you want it to pop up for (or not).

[anon (am)]

@Helvetosaur

But you’re right, if the notifications panel is closed, it shouldn’t automatically open. Or at least have a setting that allows you to choose which kinds of notifications you want it to pop up for (or not).

Any response from the forum w/ progress on this issue? Thanks.

[anon (am)]

The phantom Notifications panel has returned. I do not ever want to see it, yet it appeared yesterday. Rhino 8 SR7 2024-4-16 (Rhino 8, 8.7.24107.13001)

Here are the notifications ostensibly urgent enough to warrant a new tab appearing in my life. As usual, they are unimportant.

Can someone please tell me how to suppress the Notifications tab forever?

Thanks

SystemInfo-R8

Rhino 8 SR7 2024-4-16 (Rhino 8, 8.7.24107.13001, Git hash:master @ aa01e3b9820d84a48c2a812d24f0cf42379ee3d8)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-04-16
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.17134 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics P630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 2-18-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P2000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 2-15-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 551.61
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 2-15-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5161
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.7.24107.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[anon (am)]

It’s back. Can I please, please, I beg you, please turn this off forever?

SystemInfo-R8

Rhino 8 SR11 2024-8-20 (Rhino 8, 8.11.24233.01001, Git hash:master @ 6957666ece3a5f3ed7694c0ca66cdfea0407df3a)
License type: Commercial, build 2024-08-20
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.17134 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]

Non-hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P2000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 4-11-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA Quadro P2000 with Max-Q Design (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 4-11-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 552.22
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port

Secondary graphics devices.
Intel(R) UHD Graphics P630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 2-18-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- There are no monitors attached to this device. Laptop lid is probably closed

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-11-2024
Driver Version: 31.0.15.5222
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\WebBrowser.rhp “WebBrowser”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.11.24233.1001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[wim (Wim Dekeyser)]

Hi -

@anon

It’s back. Can I please, please, I beg you, please turn this off forever?

I find this rather annoying as well when it happens, and then it goes away again…
[I have a two-letter alias to reinstate my custom Window Layout to make that disappear, but that shouldn’t be necessary.]

I suppose that some conditions are good to be warned about, but this is clearly not one of those cases.

We have a few relevant YTs on the list:

• RH-50496 Show New Driver notification more promiently
• RH-54400 Driver gripe with it’s 3 days old in Notification panel?
• RH-73552 Notification for Display Driver update needs tune-up

But I’ve added RH-84247 Panels: Notifications Panel Forces Docked Panel to Appear
-wim