# How to use the value of Open Nest to make my cutting line layout denser and make full use of the space

I use Open Nest to typeset my curves, but why are they arranged so sparsely? How can I adjust them to make full use of the typesetting space? And I want to arrange these four rings together, but I don’t know why, it just doesn’t work. I think those cases can be operated like this

here is a very well-done and super explanatory video on how to use Open Nest: OpenNest: Introduction | #01 Nesting Objects with Text in Rhino - YouTube

at minute 6:00 it explains what the “rotation” value does:

in simple words, the number of rotations is the division of the full 360 degrees angle in which each piece can be placed: if you use value 3 like in your picture, then each piece will be tried “as it is”, or rotated 120 degrees, or rotated 240 degrees, nothing more nothing less

if you are looking for a wider range of rotations, you can just insert (for instance) 36: that way you will get 36 possible increments of 10 degrees each one (this increase of possibilities will of course reflect on the calculation time)

I adjusted the value of Rotation to 360, why the typesetting method is still not ideal, there are many gaps

I think you are looking for true shape nesting or equivalent.
I suspect you will only get that in a paid solution.

is this closer to what you were expecting?

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