Documentation: Serengeti Suggestion

I’ve begun to use Rhino 5 (and trying 6 beta) as an all in one modeling, documentation and rendering tool (with VRay). One (of a few) drawbacks I find on the documentation end is the “Layout Space Scaling” feature. While it is great for scaling annotations, it cannot scale (I think) symbols (blocks) that are usually a part of many disciplines annotations. i.e Elevation markers, section markers, detail call outs, etc.

There also seems to be an issue with Titleblocks when using the layout space scaling feature. Text is scaled out of proportion when it is on. Unless Titleblocks should be created in layout space not model space and made into blocks there?

It would be great if Rhino 6 incorporated a way to add custom annotation symbols within annotation styles. Anyone agree or found a way around this other than leaving layout scaling off and creating specific block symbols and annotation styles for each scale used (1/16", 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", etc)?


Hi larchitect,
You are correct. Annotation scale only affects annotations obejcts: text, dimension, hatch.
A wish for Blocks that respond to annotations scale are on the list RH-32049. It will not happen for Rhino 6, but maybe a service release of 6 or Rhino 7. I will your request as a positive vote for the feature.

Title blocks can be blocked from model space or layout space. However, the issue is scale. You need to make sure that is “1 to 1” with the layout size, when you create it in either space.

To address your issues with the title block, I need to get a model that exhibit the problem.
My guess is that the text is not create “1 to 1”, meaning is it not the printed height.

Please send your model at your convenience.
Mary Ann Fugier
McNeel Technical Support and Training
Seattle, WA

Hi Mary Ann,
Any update regarding the inclusion of such a feature in the current or upcoming Rhino release?
Specifically I need to define the classical center of mass symbol, place it on my model in various spots, and have it to scale consistently across my layouts, as annotations and text do.

Hi Matteo,
It is on the pile of feature requests and is currently open, but no implementation date is scheduled.
But thanks for checking in on this.

I have added your inquiry to the request, so the developer will see that you are asking about it.
There were a lot of new features in Rhino 7 like SubD that floated to the top over these annotation issues.

Rhino 8 will also have some major features.
If it is not in Rhino 8, Rhino 9 development starts the day Rhino 8 ships. Development never stops.

You are watching the correct Forum category, any new features are announced here when they are ready to test.

Mary Ann Fugier