Consistent Model Crashing - Max File size for RIR?

I have a Revit 2021 model which has been developed to a schematic design level, not very heavy or complex. Side note, the Revit file is in the Imperial unit system (feet).

We modeled the exterior wall in Rhino, and pulled it into Revit using Rhino Inside, back spring of 2021. The Rhino file is modeled in inches (in case it is important). I’ve

However, now, when I try to open the rhino file using Rhino Inside, it consistently crashes. I’ve tested the following scenarios:

  • Open Revit model, launch Rhino Inside, open rhino model. “Model units mismatch” prompt comes up. Choose not to scale the model. Revit Crashes.
  • Open Revit model, launch Rhino Inside, open rhino model. “Model units mismatch” prompt comes up. Choose to scale the model. Revit Crashes.
  • Open Revit model, create new project. Launch Rhino Inside, open rhino model. “Model units mismatch” prompt comes up. Choose not to scale the model. Revit Crashes.
  • Open Revit model, create new project. Launch Rhino Inside, open rhino model. “Model units mismatch” prompt comes up. Choose to scale the model. Revit Crashes.
  • Open Revit model, create new project. Launch Rhino Inside, open rhino model. “Model units mismatch” prompt comes up. Wait a few seconds without clicking on anything. Revit Crashes.

I’ve purged the model, and audited it:

Document Manifest:
Texture Mapping: 1863 active, 1 system.
Material: 298 active, 2 system.
Line Pattern: 6 active, 4 deleted, 3 system.
Layer: 116 active, 2 deleted, 1 system.
Group: 110 active.
TextStyle: none.
Annotation Style: 4 active, 1 deleted, 12 system.
Light: none.
Hatch Pattern: 12 active, 1 deleted, 9 system.
Block: 33 active.
Model Geometry: 24435 active.

Total: 26885 model components (8 deleted). 28 system components.

Audit Summary:
Table tally:
116 layers
33 instance definitions
4 annotation styles
0 fonts
6 linetypes
298 rendering materials
Object tally:
22939 normal objects
0 locked objects
1115 hidden objects
0 deleted objects (in undo buffer)
381 block definition objects
0 reference normal objects
0 reference locked objects
0 reference hidden objects
0 reference block definition objects
No errors.

As a final attempt, I tried cutting and pasting half of the Rhino file’s contents over to a new rhino file. This worked! Both halves of the original file now open. Any thoughts on what may be causing this? Is there a maximum file size for Rhino files?

Original (old) model file: 489,862 kb
Old model file with stuff cut out: 88,747kb
New Model file with stuff pasted in: 401,709kb

Hi @Matthew_Breau,

Have you tried disabling all the Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino itself?

To do it just open Rhino on the desktop, go to Options, look for the Plug-ins section and once there on the top pick “Plugins that do not ship with Rhino”.
This will show you a list of extra plug-ins, please disable all those plugins, close Rhino and load the model in Rhino.Inside.

Does this work?

That fixed it, here are the plugins which were active previously, in case others run into this issue.

After re-enabling one by one, I was able to confirm its being caused by Enscape. I suppose I should have known, as I was clicking past this error:
enscape

However, it seems like the crash only happens when:

  • Enscape is enabled in Rhino
  • Enscape is enabled in Revit
  • This particular rhino file is opened (Rhino seems to start up ok, and other rhino files seem to work ok, crashing only occurs once this file is opened)

Revit version is: 2021.1.3
Enscape version (revit) is: 3.1.2 +55592, build date 9/7/2021 08:10 UTC
Rhino version is: R7 SR12 (7.12.21313.6341, 2021-11-09)
Enscape version (rhino) is: 0.0.21250.810

Do you know if the enscape devs are active here? I’ll “at” them so they can be aware of it

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Thanks for checking all this and sharing back.

I would contact them on his forum to be sure the message arrives.
Forum - Enscape Community Forum (enscape3d.com)

Thanks @kike, will do

For posterity… here is a link to the newly created thread on the enscape site.
https://forum.enscape3d.com/index.php?thread/19464-enscape-causing-crashing-in-rhino-inside/