Cannot join lines to save my life! ugh

I’m brand new to Rhino, and somewhat new to 3d modeling all together… but trying my best.
I’ve read every thread listed, tried everything mentioned… but no matter what I do, it keeps telling me I’m out of tolerance. I’ve gone to units and tried every setting the tolerances a million different ways. Nothing works. I’ve cannot JOIN the lines on both individual items I created in the link… In fact… even when I experimented with other lines, nothing joins. And so, I can’t create any line drawn objects. I’m lost. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. My units settings are:
Units: Inches
Absolute Tolerance: .001
Angle Tolerance: 1
Decimal: 1

templateTEST.3dm (114.0 KB)

Hello,

what do you mean by join?

Your lines are clean, the outer boundary is a closed polyline and the inner lines seem good.

You can only join lines that share a naked vertex.

If you want to make the set of lines a single object you could group them. But that depends on what you want to do with them.

Thank you for responding. Ok… yes, my goal is to: (1) make each “part” it’s own single object, and then (2) join them both together to make ONE final product. This is actually only 2 parts of a handbag template. There are many more parts that I need to make, but I couldn’t even get past the first beginning stages. Soo yes… connect each part together, and then seem them together as one. That’s what I’m trying to do.

I just tried to group them, but even group isn’t making the lines stay together. I just don’t understand.

Actually… it says they’re grouped… BUT when I select the object, it still only selects the individual lines. It doesn’t select the whole group of lines that I “grouped”… if that makes sense.

I’m lost. Maybe tell us step-by-step what you are trying to do? You posted a file with 10 curves in it. Some of them have been joined into closed perimeters of the two shapes. You can’t join curves that don’t touch each other, and you can’t join more than 2 curves at any single point because that would have no real purpose in 3d model-building. Your tolerances are not an issue.

If you group the objects and click on them, they should all select (highlight) together. The command line will give you some feedback about what you have selected.

If none of this info helps, maybe send as simple an example as you can. This file has 2 distinct entities with multiple internal lines in each one, so I’m not sure if you are hoping to make them into one entity or what you are trying to do.

If you need to break these shapes into discrete closed shapes, maybe the tool you need is CurveBoolean.


As Peter mentioned, CurveBoolean works well, or you could simply trace over this with a new polyline.

Thank you Peter. Let’s focus on the right-side smaller drawing. Here’s step by step what I did:

  1. I drew the outer perimeter line, and then it closed itself… making it one object.
  2. I then drew the upper horizontal and right-side vertical line…
  3. I then drew the center vertical line.
  4. I finally drew the inner left side vertical line.
    So… now, when I select each part I drew, it only selects THAT line(s). I just “thought” they should all somehow be grouped or joined together to become one object. But I can’t make that happen. I just keep selecting the individual lines when I press any of them. You mentioned that all the lines should highlight once I group them all together… that is EXACTLY what I’m trying to accomplish. But on my end, it just keeps highlighting the individual lines or that outer perimeter drawing… not the entire drawing complete with inner lines added.

Also, I tried the CurveBoolean. I’m still only able to highlight individual lines… not the whole thing as one.

I’m just trying to make them one unit BEFORE I extrude. Maybe this isn’t even necessary, but it just seems like that would be a normal thing to do when making several different parts of a product that are all drawn from multiple lines. Again, I’m new… so if I’m wrong, just let me know. :slight_smile:

Thank you Ryan. I’ll try it now.

Hi James and welcome to rhino!
We need a sketch or something to clearly show us what you are trying to do. Since you are new to rhino and don’t have the lingo and terminology correct yet, we are all having a bit of a comms issue here.

In rhino, all objects that are curves or line polylines are called curves. There are open curves and closed curves. We refer to single line segments that have 2 endpoints only as a line or line segment. Joined straight lines are called polylines (though rhino properties still just calls everything curves). Curves with more complexity are still just called curves.

To extrude curves into solid shapes, you must use closed curves.
To easily get closed curves from your drawing, use the curveboolean command, set combineregions to no, and just window select all of the curves. Hit enter then click in the separate regions to get something like this:
Screenshot 2024-02-13 122744

Quick helpful tool to know, the select curves tool bar. Very handy.

Back to your issue.
Study this whole section of the help file:
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/en-us/index.htm#seealso/sak_curve.htm%3FTocPath%3DCreate%2520objects|Curves|_____0

after you learn about curves then study up about polysurfaces and extrusions:
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/8/help/en-us/index.htm#seealso/sak_polysurfaces.htm%3FTocPath%3DCreate%2520objects|_____3

If you try to extrude all of those things together you will likely not get what you want, but without knowing exactly what you want it is difficult to assist you. Is this what you want? The sep panels extruded as solids?

Be patient with yourself and study the help guide it will have all of your answers most likely.

best,
Robert

Thank you SO MUCH carvecream. I’m going to work on this exactly as you said, and study what you listed. Hopefully I’ll understand all of it better afterwards. Thank you so much again.

you’re welcome! feel free to hit us up on this after your ‘upgrade’

Hey James, the confusion may come from the fact that you are trying to make a non manifold object.

surfaces can join to one and only one edge at a time.

so in the case of your right side object you can do this

  1. make seperate closed objects

or

  1. make individual surfaces that are not joined.

Thank you. I understand much better now. I appreciate all the help.

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