BUG: Rhino8 PreventIng Computer sleep, using lots of energy when idle

Akash · October 17, 2023, 6:13pm

Noticing my MBP’s battery draining fast… [computer is only a few months old]
I see in the energy tab of Activity Monitor, that Rhino [Beta] is the only app that is preventing sleep,
and the Energy impact while idle but with an open model is very large…
this wasn’t the case until a few days ago… so it must be a new bug in the weekend Beta!
Edit:. referring to last weekend [Oct14]

Last login: Wed Oct 11 20:33:35 on console
akashlotan@192 ~ % pmset -g
System-wide power settings:
Currently in use:
 standby              1
 Sleep On Power Button 1
 hibernatefile        /var/vm/sleepimage
 powernap             1
 networkoversleep     0
 disksleep            10
 sleep                1 (sleep prevented by powerd, sharingd, Rhinoceros)
 hibernatemode        3
 ttyskeepawake        1
 displaysleep         10
 tcpkeepalive         1
 powermode            2
 womp                 1
akashlotan@192 ~ %

[ the Beta prevent sleep also when on battery !

now I have to close Rhino every time I travel, which means loosing the Undo stack.

And yes it is using 6+ gb memory [big mesh] but look at Zbrush next to it with more then 10gb and it is taking practically no energy at all while idle!

System Info:
System-Info_18Oct23.txt (13.3 KB)

The file is large [and private]. But I can upload to Tech if needed?

thanks a lot
akash

Akash · October 24, 2023, 5:05pm

Bumping this up, as it seems to be well over looked.
An app like Rhino Preventing Sleep is a very serious problem for the MBP.

No other app is doing this, not even PS Beta!

Please kindly try to fix this urgently! Loosing the undo stack every evening while traveling is very risky.

thanks a lot
Akash

rudolf.neumerkel · October 24, 2023, 6:21pm

my RH 8 Beta does not seem to prevent sleep…

Akash · October 24, 2023, 6:24pm

Hi Rudi
Have you looked under the Energy tab? your screenshot is from the CPU tab I assume as I can’t read German

and regarding the energy impact field : in this screenshot rhino was just open and had only a box. no work was done… the large energy impact is with a large model that has been work on and then left open for many hours with the MBP closed

Akash · October 27, 2023, 10:20am

Hi @Gijs
Having given up on quietly waiting for response to this very serious issue, [in my seriousness scale at least] I’m tagging you now.
Please would you ask the Devs to fix this.
If it is only something that is wrong on my end…? I’d love to have some help resolving this.

With best regards
Akash

Gijs · October 27, 2023, 2:07pm

I don’t see that here on an M1… I’ll ask

dan · October 27, 2023, 4:33pm

Hi @Akash-

With RhinoBETA open, in Activity Monitor > Energy, can you please click the little chevron to the left of the RhinoBETA label to show the subprocesses? Can you send a screenshot of those subprocesses? For example:

Thanks,
-Dan

Akash · October 27, 2023, 5:20pm

Hi @dan

here’s
thanks a lot

this is just a small file with no work done open some minute ago, with only 4 small objects, so energy consumption is low

dan · October 27, 2023, 5:37pm

Thank you. Not that it narrows it down much but it does likely rule-out some of the potential culprits.

Can you please try this?

Quit RhinoBETA completely.
Wait 30 seconds or so.
Relaunch RhinoBETA from the app icon (don’t double-click to open a file) and wait for the Splash Screen to appear. DO NOT start a new modeling window or open a file.
Go back into Activity Monitor > Energy …

Is RhinoBETA still Preventing Sleep?

If the answer is “Yes,” then please do this:

Quit RhinoBETA completely.
Wait 30 seconds or so.
Unplug your 3DConnexion device.
Relaunch RhinoBETA from the app icon (don’t double-click to open a file) and wait for the Splash Screen to appear.
Start a new modeling window.

Is RhinoBETA still Preventing Sleep?

Akash · October 27, 2023, 5:43pm

dan · October 27, 2023, 5:47pm

Did you disconnect your 3DConnexion device? (sorry, there was a typo above - fixed now )

dan · October 27, 2023, 5:53pm

Another thing you could try is:

Quit RhinoBETA completely.
Launch Terminal.app and run: pmset -g assertionslog|grep -i sleep - this searches the log for strings that are preventing sleep. Leave this open.
Launch RhinoBETA and start a new modeling window.

What is happening in the Terminal window? Is it getting spammed by messages or is there a clear culprit? If you can’t tell, it would be good to just copy/paste the output from it here so we can take a look.

Akash · October 27, 2023, 6:10pm

Yes I disconnected it

Note that the original post was after a night “sleep”. and I always disconnect the devices from the computer when I close the lead

dan · October 27, 2023, 6:33pm

Ok, I’ll be curious to hear what you see when you run this

Akash · October 27, 2023, 6:49pm

Hi Dan
I didn’t see this post from you earlier.
here’s the text form Terminal

[nothing was added to it when I launched rhino]

Last login: Mon Oct 23 01:36:35 on ttys000
akashlotan@192 ~ % pmset -g assertionslog|grep -i sleep
PreventUserIdleDisplaySleep 0
PreventSystemSleep 0
PreventUserIdleSystemSleep 1
pid 646(sharingd): [0x00074f7d00018b73] 00:12:24 PreventUserIdleSystemSleep named: “Handoff”
pid 310(powerd): [0x000731be00018646] 02:19:19 PreventUserIdleSystemSleep named: “Powerd - Prevent sleep while display is on”

Akash · October 27, 2023, 6:54pm

But after some 5 minutes while I was reading some news and not looking at Rhino, Terminal goes wild with these:

Last login: Mon akashlotan@192 PreventUserIdleDisplaySleep 0
PreventSystemSleep 0
PreventUserIdleSystemSleep 1
pid 646(sharingd): pid 310(powerd): 10/28 01:45:26 Created 10/28 01:45:29 Released 10/28 01:45:34 Created 10/28 01:45:39 Released 10/28 01:45:50 Created 10/28 01:46:03 Created 10/28 01:46:03 Released 10/28 01:46:03 Created 10/28 01:46:03 Created 10/28 01:46:06 Released 10/28 01:46:06 Released 10/28 01:46:21 Created 10/28 01:46:24 Released 10/28 01:46:31 Created 10/28 01:46:34 Released 10/28 01:46:39 Created 10/28 01:46:42 Released 10/28 01:46:46 Created 10/28 01:46:49 Released 10/28 01:46:50 Created 10/28 01:46:53 Released 10/28 01:47:00 Created 10/28 01:47:06 Released 10/28 01:47:12 Created 10/28 01:47:15 Released 10/28 01:47:24 Released 10/28 01:47:27 Created 10/28 01:47:27 Created 10/28 01:47:33 Released 10/28 01:48:44 Created 10/28 01:48:47 Released 10/28 01:48:47 Created 10/28 01:48:47 Released 10/28 01:49:27 Created 10/28 01:49:30 Released 10/28 01:49:38 Created 10/28 01:49:41 Released 10/28 01:49:48 Created 10/28 01:49:51 Released 10/28 01:50:34 Created 10/28 01:50:34 Created 10/28 01:50:35 Released 10/28 01:50:35 Released 10/28 01:50:37 Created 10/28 01:50:38 Released 10/28 01:50:42 Created 10/28 01:50:45 Released 10/28 01:50:55 Created 10/28 01:50:57 Released 10/28 01:50:59 Released 10/28 01:51:05 Created 10/28 01:51:05 Released 10/28 01:51:05 Created 10/28 01:51:05 Created 10/28 01:51:05 Created 10/28 01:51:05 Created 10/28 01:51:08 Released 10/28 01:51:09 Released 10/28 01:51:09 Released 10/28 01:51:09 Released 10/28 01:51:23 Created 10/28 01:51:23 Created 10/28 01:51:29 Released 10/28 01:51:39 Created 10/28 01:51:42 Released 10/28 01:51:54 Created 10/28 01:51:58 Released 10/28 01:52:03 Created Oct 23 01:36:35 on ttys000
~ % pmset -g assertionslog|grep -i sleep
[0x00074f7d00018b73] 00:12:24 PreventUserIdleSystemSleep named: “Handoff”
[0x000731be00018646] 02:19:19 PreventUserIdleSystemSleep named: “Powerd - Prevent sleep while display is on”
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Japhy · October 27, 2023, 6:57pm

That has to do with bluetooth Bluetooth Preventing Sleep and Shutdown - Apple Community

Akash · October 27, 2023, 6:58pm

only the “Magic” Mouse is connected via BT at the moment

dan · October 30, 2023, 9:50pm

I bet you knew this question was coming…if you disconnect the Apple “Magic” Mouse from your Mac (temporarily), does Rhino still show as an app preventing sleep?

Is the 3dm file you are working on a file on iCloud, by chance?

Akash · October 31, 2023, 4:04am

Hi Dan

No, everything is saved to the computer disk. I do have Dropbox backing up the files, [after they are saved locally ].

I tested also disconnecting from the internet… it makes no difference.
I hope you will find the problem here,

Maybe trying an update to Sonoma… to see if the issue persist ?
I was holding off with the update seeing other users having a bunch of problems… Is it safe by now to update?

thanks a lot
Akash