Bug? Pictures not visible when seen from the side

[Eugen]

Hello!
Repro:

• create a Picture in a front view
• go to Top view - the picture isn’t showing, in any display mode.
  
  

Thanks!

Sysinfo

Rhino 8 SR9 2024-6-11 (Rhino 8, 8.9.24163.15301, Git hash:master @ 17c7f1c7c05ff0e0b5b12288d13a911b1f0767b4)
License type: Kommerziell, build 2024-06-11
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 10 (10.0.19045 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 64GB)
.NET 7.0.0

Computer platform: DESKTOP

Standard graphics configuration.
Primary display and OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (NVidia) Memory: 24GB, Driver date: 12-6-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 546.33
> Accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display attached to adapter port 0
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port 1

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 12-6-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.4633
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 24564 MB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Chaos Group\V-Ray\V-Ray for Rhinoceros\V7\VRayForRhino.rhp “V-Ray for Rhino”
X:\4 Rhino\PLUGINS\SafeLayout\20211108 1.1.0.2\SafeLayout.rhp “SafeLayout” 1.1.0.2
C:\Program Files\Enscape\Enscape.Rhino.Plugin-net48\Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin.dll “Enscape.Rhino8.Plugin” 0.0.24138.1238
C:\Users\e.sares\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\EleFront\4.2.2\ElefrontProperties.rhp “ElefrontProperties” 1.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoBonusTools.rhp “Rhino Bonus Tools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.9.24163.15301
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

[Gijs (Gijs de Zwart)]

that has been like that since Rhino 6. Pictures are designed to not show any edges. This issue has been reported before and is set to ‘won’t fix’

RH-48413 Pictures are invisible when viewed edge on

[Eugen]

Thanks! Ok, I see… although it’s not quite clear to me why you made that design decision.

[encephalon]

exactly, that is one brain numbing change which i have complained about myself, why does it display surfaces but not picture frames, when they are actually both surfaces. i added points for orientation.

the same is true for lines that that do not show anymore from an orthogonal view, now there is nothing there, in v5 there was at least a point indicating that there is a line.

that is very confusing to work with, still is after all these years, sometimes you accidentally move lines around without knowing.

[Eugen]

@encephalon

in v5 there was at least a point indicating that there is a line.

Seeing a projected line as a point makes sense. This should be(remain?) possible, at least optional (in the display mode, maybe).