Applying template changes to an already exisitng drawing

Hi everyone,

I have created a drawing using a custom template that I had already created. At this point I have started applying dimensions to the objects.

Now that I am looking at how the dimensions appear, I am somewhat dissatisfied. Thus, I have updated some of the Annotation Styles in my custom template.

I see that these Annotation Style changes did not automatically update my drawing, so obviously I have to take positive action to effectuate the update. Is there a way to do this without any of the objects changing? Understand, please, I just want the Annotation Styles in my drawing to change according to my updated template — I don’t want to have to redo any of the objects themselves.

Thank you.

Stanley

Hi Stanley - you should be able to use the Import button on the Annotation Styles page of Document Properties to overwrite the annotation styles in your file with objects with the ones from your updated custom template:


-wim

Hi Wim,

Thank you for your reply.

OK, but when I click on Import, I don’t know where to go to get the file. I guess I should know this, but I don’t.

Would you please explain that then — where do I find the file that has my custom template?

Stanley

Hi Stanley - you will find that under Rhino Options > Files > Template files > Default.
-wim

Hi Wim,

OK. I did what you did, and input that file. Then nothing seemed to happen.

To be honest, the whole process is making me a bit nervous. I don’t want to mess something up with an important file like a template file. Thus, I may just not engage in that process after all. I will just make sure that I have the template set up the way that I want and use that.

Furthermore, this occurred to me now that I am thinking of it: If I ever wanted to make a change to a template, I could make the change in a blank document, and then copy all the previously made objects to this blank document with the updated template. This would be a safer method, I think.

Please don’t misunderstand. I appreciate your help and your input, which made me examine the situation further. Now that I have examined it, I think that I have come across a safer method.

Stanley

I think there is a basic misunderstanding @Stanley

When you start a NEW file using a template, all that does is populate the Document settings portion of Rhino with whatever is in that template. There is no residual relationship with the template file. Templates are just Rhino files in a specific folder that happens to display when you start a new file and use the template option.
You could just as easily make a copy of any existing file and start working from there.

Separately, and independently, Rhino has tools for importing specific portions from other 3dm files. Maybe there is a group of Layers, or named Annotation styles in some other file you want in your current file. Instead of manually creating all those Layers and DimStyles again, from scratch, you can import them from another file.

There is really no magic going on here.

Hi John,

Well, that’s interesting.

So, let’s say that I created a file called first-one.3dm, and it had a group of Layers as well as Annotation styles that I liked.

Then, I am working on another file called second-one.3dm, and I realize that I would like to import that group of Layers and the Annotation styles from first-one.3dm into second-one.3dm.

How would I do that, please?

Stanley

In file second-one, if you ran the Import command and selected first-one, everything in first-one would be imported, layers, objects on those layers, annotations styles would be added to second-one.

If instead you used the ImportAnnotationStyles command, then selected first-one, you would be presented with a list of named annotation styles you can import.

The ImportLayout command is similar.

Hi John,

OK. Let me experiment with this.

Most interesting and informative.

Thank you.

Stanley

Hi John,

OK. I love this ImportAnnotationStyles command that you taught me. This will be tremendously useful. (I don’t know about ImportLayout, because I don’t yet know about layouts — but one thing at a time.)

I am having this one issue, however. In my hypothetical first-one.3dm file, I set up the same annotation style in Default, Millimeter Architectural, Millimeter Large, and Millimeter Small. But the only imported style that changes things in second-one.3dm is Default. In and of itself, that’s no big deal. Why is it the case, however?

Thank you.

Stanley

Hi Stanley, if you are sure that all of those styles are different from one another in both files and you are checking all boxes for all styles, please post the two files so that we can have a look.
(Note: in your custom template, I would recommend to change all factory-default styles and rename them to something that is custom to your environment).
-wim

ellipsoid.3dm (297.0 KB)

Hi Wim,

This is the file that I was using as my template (that is, my hypothetical first-one.3dm).

You don’t need me to send another file, do you (that is, my hypothetical second-one.3dm)?

Hi Stanley - I didn’t need that other file, no.

Here’s what I did:
I launched Rhino and ran NEW and picked the factory-default “Small Objects - Millimeters.3dm” file (as your file also was in mm).

This file has 4 default annotation styles:
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I then changed the font and the size of these 4 styles to something that I assumed you didn’t pick for your styles in “ellipsoid.3dm”:
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I then picked the Import button, left the default unchanged, and let those override the styles that I had in my file:
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Now, all fonts of all styles are set to “Verdana” and the height is changed to what you had in “ellipsoid.3dm”.

Is this not what you are seeing?
-wim

Hi Wim,

OK. I guess that I am all set. Maybe I was doing something wrong.

I will study this in great detail.

You and John have been really helpful, and I appreciate it.

Stanley

Hi Wim and John (and of course anyone else),

One quick question. Is the command ImportAnnotationStyles on any of the tabbed toolbars?

Thank you.

Stanley

Hi Stanley - according to the help file, it’s on both the Dimension and Drafting toolbars.

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-wim

Hi Wim,

Thank you.

I need to train myself to use the help file more often.

Stanley