Another case of complex filleting: How can I achieve this cleanly?

Hi there!

I have been using Rhino for several years now, so I’m not entirely new to the software. With the experience I’ve gained over the years—and after watching many tutorials by Kyle H. and reading numerous threads—I’ve managed to find workarounds for various challenges.

For the past few days, I’ve been trying to solve a particular issue. It’s been almost haunting me because I feel like there’s a solution, but I just can’t figure out how to tackle this problem.

The main goal of my project is to create clean and smooth surfaces while adhering to the fillet radiuses of the reference model I have. I’ve tried almost everything: Sweep2, FilletEdge, pipe trimming, MatchSrf, BlendCrv, NetworkSrf… but nothing seems to work perfectly, and it’s driving me crazy. :melting_face:

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could lend me a hand with this! :upside_down_face:
Ken
250628_webbing holder_forum.3dm (4.6 MB)



i tried but this is even more terrible :joy: maybe v9 wip can do it with its new tools


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_fillSrf (not filletSrf !!! ) in Rhino V9 / Wip

v8

start with the green surface (which is trimmed towards the violet srf)
_extrudeCrv
_changeDegree to 3
_setPt to make the 2 last rows of cvs the same height as the planar big surface

the blueish surface is a simple
_revolve or _filletSrf

the violett srf is initially a _sweep2
set up all crvs to get a nice single span surface.
move the cvs optionally ( i did not fiddle it to perfection…)
_matchSrf …

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Good fix tom!

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The enclosed file has a couple ideas
webbing holderx.3dm (480.7 KB)

The first one looks good

This one had the right topology, only the surfaces were overly complex, and not G1 like all other fillets.

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I think v9 WIP can fix that with fillsrf

from a design (er 's) point of view - i would love to see a nice R0.5 edge. (violett)
but this would requier the green surface and blue radius to be adapted.

250628_webbing holder_tp_rh8__3.3dm (6.0 MB)

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Thanks a lot for trying; it’s not too bad and certainly better than what I did! To be honest, I was not aware that a v9 work-in-progress was available. I found out about it while I was on the forum. I´ll give it a try.

Hey @Jim really cool thanks! I liked your approach there, nice that you did 2 options.

Thanks a lot man! I definitely have to give the v9 a try.
I will try to apply your method in a couple of hours. I want to be able to do this on my own as well, and it’s really nice from you that you wrote down all steps.
Cheers,

I agree with you 100%, I like the look. The thing is that the manufacturer designed the part this way :expressionless_face: so I got to follow it somehow.

Thank you, at least I had “something” right. I just couldn’t match the whole stuff correctly (G1, G2), although I always blend the curves from extract isocurves or always with Tangency settings… I guess I lack some knowledge there.

The elephant in the room is that this is a case of “bad modelling”. No cads are great at solving stuff like this, so what you need to do is to simplify the task for the cad.
Here I would have modeled this surface as one (or three) and then you’ll just have one edge to fillet:

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I would reduce the complexity down to two surfaces. Cheat the strict radii, but get close with node density.

Take the original curves and rebuild, extrude the two curves, flatten the surface control nodes out near the transition point. Boolean, fillet.

Quick example:
Quick Test.3dm (252.9 KB)



( Whether or not this is “correct modelling”, it is how I have used Rhino for injection molded products for decades. :slightly_smiling_face: )

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This is very educational and teaches alot of problem solving but also how not to model parts and make work harder for anyone involved

Can you let us know a bit more it says you receive this part from a partner, did they model this using another software?

It just looked atrocious how you received it

@Holo Indeed, when I opened the original file I thought “but why” ? If I had to design it from scratch I would have followed the same approach but actually, the mold is already opened and running. Thanks for your feedback and solution, much appreciated.

@nxakt
Cool approach. I opened your file and I told to myself, yup that’s definitely a good way to go. I rarely touches control points on “complex” junctions, because I am a bit afraid/lazy and expect the software to do the “magic” :clown_face:
I believe the original I get should be after DFM process since the part is being injected for a while.
I also believe they solved this issue for mass production with sand papering the mold or so… just a guess.

@CADARTZ
Agree, I am so happy of all the answers I got. Truly thankful to the community there. Last week ended with headaches and this one begins with a lot of energy.
I can tell you more: our partner models with Solidworks, since they are not a design company but a manufacturing company, they focus on feasibility and getting things done quick to send them into production. I wanted to remodel it for rendering purposes, getting rid on the draft angle edges and so on.

Thanks again y’all!

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Solidworks is very telling as its not the first time this forum has seen this mess because of it

Thankfully there are lots of seasoned veterans here that can tackle these type of challenges with no blood, some sweat and mostly tears

The design… has been successfully unf*****!:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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