I click install and get the Yak dialog window, then try to take a screen snapshot of it (to paste to GIMP) and the next thing that happens is I’m unable to return to the Yak dialog, no matter what I do! Alt-Tab and all other tricks I know fail to return focus to the Yak dialog so I can click “Close”.
This second screen shot was accomplished by hovering the mouse over the Rhino/Yak mini-previews in the Windows 10 task bar, which don’t appear in the image:
Finally, I clicked the “X” to close the taskbar mini-preview for the Yak dialog (which works) but the first dialog remains with “Install” and “Close” options. I click “Close”, your GH file opens, but clearly missing most of its code, indicating no plugin installed?
The focus issue might be related to a very old R5 annoyance that hasn’t changed in R6. If there are Rhino dialogs placed over the GH canvas, they don’t disappear when you click the GH canvas!? Grrr… One must click the GH window title bar to make them hide in the background.
P.S. I closed the file and re-opened it, skipping the screen shots this time and clicking “Close” in the Yak dialog. It closes but the missing plugins dialog remains. I click its “Close” button and get the same results as before!? No code, no plugin.
Is putting out code like this a tradition at McNeel? I love a lot of what I see in R6 but wow, I’m seeing stuff like this at every turn. It’s asking a lot for paying customers to be diverted with QA distractions like this.
You need to restart Rhino after installing for the first time. I don’t remember if there is a message to tell that, something for @will to check.
You’ll be extra happy to know that GhShaderNodes plug-in is still very, very, very rough. Missing icons, no cluster support, no stable multiple inputs, only GH_NumberSlider and GH_ColourPicker as non-GhShaderNodes components supported as inputs, and so on and so forth. It is more-or-less a pre-release stage experimental plug-in. But usable already for those who know what to do with it.
How is anyone supposed to know that? Maybe a message to that effect in the Yak dialog?
So I closed Rhino and re-opened your GH file. I see code this time, no missing plugin dialog, but no geometry visible? I am distinctly unimpressed. I’m an old geek programmer myself but I never forgot who I was writing code for and would be embarrassed to publish an app with so many obvious usability problems. You guys need some fresh air!
P.S. How do I remove this useless plugin? I knew how to do that in R5 but don’t see your plugin anywhere? Please understand that this is a trust/credibility issue…
The plug-in doesn’t create any geometry at all. It creates a shadergraph to be plugged into the Cycles XML material. The plug-in allows you to create complex materials using the GH paradigm. This particular plug-in will in all likelihood never generate any geometry data. It does how-ever create XML and C# code from the graph attached to an output node. The code is open for scrutiny,btw.
Now it’s possible to drill down to the ‘AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\6.0’ folder and delete the ‘shader_cache’ folder (which I did with Rhinoi closed). But guess what? After restarting Rhino, the plugin is still there! Maybe because I have an SSD and must reboot Windows to have any effect? Will try that next.
@nathanletwory, this plugin is probably wonderful and I may revisit it someday but it’s a terrible example to use for people who just want to get on with their day. I’ve squandered nearly two hours messing with this!
Or to hide a user’s frustration with migrating to R6?
I can’t purge this plugin. Every time I open your GH file, the deleted ‘shader_cache’ folder reappears, the code works, the plugin is visible on the GH Component Tabs. Incredible… really very inconsiderate.
P.S. The deleted ‘shader_cache’ folder reappears every time I restart Rhino, whether I open your file or not.
Did you remove the GhShaderNodes package folder from the location I mentioned?
No, to keep the original on topic. This new thread is out in the open for everyone to participate in, including voicing frustration, a valid and acceptable reaction to the current state of Yak-affairs.
I meant to illustrate the potential of the package manager, I am sorry I wasted your time.
Did so but the deleted ‘shader_cache’ folder still reappears when I restart Rhino… Was about to try rebooting Windows when, after a few delete/restarts, it stopped happening.
How many more people will suffer hours of frustration over this before a “Uninstall Plugin” option is offered? This kind of tacky usability is costing McNeel trust and goodwill.
Try copy/paste next time. It wasn’t just a fail, it was misdirection that consumed hours of my time. I would have preferred to wait 11 hours for the correct answer. This is only one of too many similar issues I’ve seen in R6 in just my first few days of using it. My impression is that McNeel doesn’t have a QA team at all, just a bunch of programmers tossing their work into the soup.
I would expect a Yak demo file (not the plugin) to produce visible geometry that uses a plugin. Your demo file didn’t do that. It wasn’t clear at a glance what it was for and whether or not it really succeeded.
@RIL, your attempt at humor is lost on me. There’s nothing funny about this.
