Which laptop is better for rhino

I’m taking a rhino course in college and wish to upgrade from my old laptop (7 years old🧙🏼‍♂️) to a new one that will be the best for rhino.

after a lot of searching I came to two favorites:

  1. Asus Zenbook 15 UM3504DA-NX050W
  2. Asus VivoBook 16X K3605VV-PL103

my questions are which one is better? does RTX 4060 is so much better then 4050? is there a better computer for my needs in the same price category?

Moved to Hardware category.

This thread has good GPU information:

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Well you’re in the ballpark with ASUS at least. But you should consider the Pro Art Studiobooks:

NVIDIA Quadro RTX’s are the best imo.

The laptops I used to get have been MTech’s. But I’m not too happy with the last one I got, so next time I’m going to get the ASUS instead. And get whatever top o’ the line one’s available. My current MTech is getting older, but might have a couple yrs left in it.

They’re both equally awesome imo. A significant jump would be a comparison between RTX 3000 vs RTX 4000, but those are equally awesome too – relatively speaking.

RTX 4000’s are the sweet spot. RTX6000’s are a bit overkill due to the price, but if that’s what you want then why compromise.

I believe ASUS did have a laptop available with the RTX 6000’s before, that ran for about $10k – half the cost was just the GPU’s lol.

Since Quadro name is being obsolete , I prefer using the GPU’s codename for comparisons

  1. RTX 3000 Ada uses Nvidia’s AD106 Chip with 4000 Cuda cores 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  2. Geforce RTX 4060 uses AD107 With about 3000 Cuda cores and 8GB of GDDR6 memory
  3. Geforce RTX 4050 uses AD107 With about 2500 Cuda cores and 6GB of GDDR6 memory
  4. Geforce RTX 4070 uses AD104 With about 5200 Cuda cores and 12GB of GDDR6 memory
    If you can afford RTX 4070 I’d go with that one (since it is a different tier than the others) otherwise I’d avoid the 4050.
    RTX 3000 ada or RTX 4060 are good choices for a laptop

I’m not familiar with the Quadros series going obsolete. It must be anew development in the last few months if true.

Looks like they’ve been planning this for a few yrs now :thinking: :thought_balloon:

It is in the Ampere series in late 2020,
All the Quadros are called RTX X000
All the Teslas are called RTX X0 or RTX X00
Nvidia has killed two of its iconic brands - here’s why | TechRadar

They think they made it less confusing :sweat_smile:

Guess those RTX4000’s I bought last yr are obsolete already lol

“Obsolete” over states the change.
I think “rebranding” is more accurate as the card/chip models continue to be updated and replaced.

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The RTX 4070 Laptop has 4608 Cuda cores and 8GB memory. You need to go to the 4080 laptop to get 12GB (and you get 7424 Cuda cores there).
Compare GeForce Gaming RTX 40 Series Laptops | NVIDIA

The RTX 3000 Ada also has 4608 Cuda cores and 8GB ECC memory
The RTX 3500 Ada has 5120 Cuda cores and 12GB ECC memory but also has 40% greater peak memory bandwidth (it uses a 192-bit interface, against the 3000’s 128-bit i/f)
proviz-mobile-linecard-update-2653183.pdf (widen.net)

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I guess his budget is creeping up~ :sweat_smile:

Obsolete is less dramatic than killed per the article

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I suspect his budget will remain the same (he’s a student) but his aspiration will be soaring. Sometimes we’re plain unhelpful.

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On spec, the VivoBook will be better for Rhino -
bigger screen (with more pixels) because Rhino loves real estate;
discrete graphics using RTX 4060 laptop gpu so you can use Nvidia Cuda cores for rendering;
Nvidia generally considered to have better graphics drivers;
better cooling (important for sustained graphics use when rendering).

HTH
Jeremy

PS This assumes the thing works. I don’t have any personal experience of it so can’t comment on build quality, robustness, real-life performance etc so you should do due diligence.

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If the display diagonal is similar, I would take the one with less resolution and with the smaller aspect ratio.
Having a UHD/4k 15 inches is, imho, useless. You are only going to make your GPU stress over time (bad for mobile hardware), fan noise, less battery duration etc…
FHD for 14/15 inches is plenty. QHD for 17, maybe. UHD always overkill.

And ratio, if one of the two option is 16:10, I would take it.
Just a personal opinion.

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thank you all very very much
Ill go for the VivoBook (4060, 16:10)
and also I learned a lot :slight_smile:

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What is the thinnest and lightest and smallest laptop model that I can purchase that runs Rhino3D.
I need this for travel for a shoulder bag and I don’t want any extra weight or bulk. Help!

You’re going to face different constraints on small/light form factor notebooks.

ASUS Zenbook 14 OLED (UX3405) - 1.3 kg

Very light, but you are going to be limited to Intel Arc graphics, which should handle the viewports of Rhino, but you will not be able to do any GPU rendering on that; and there is no guarantee of stability.

ASUS Zenbook Pro 14 OLED (UX6404) - 1.6 kg

This will get you onto an Nvidia RTX 4070, and a 13900H CPU. You may find that under heavy loads, the CPU may bottleneck and throttle, owing to the sheer lack of cooling space. It’s also hideously expensive.

In any case, you are likelt to find at most a 4070 in a 14-inch platform, owing to the lack of cooling. However you may find various AMD and Intel CPUs all the way up to their higher-level specs.

If you can wait a couple of months, you may find that the more available Intel Core Ultra 7 or 9 Meteor Lake laptops with small form factors will start coming through more, and with included dGPUs from Nvidia; which seem coveted here. Not anywhere like Apple items, but you will pay for enhanced performance in such small forms.