VSR end of Life-

Thanks @tom and @jordi.rovira for giving me the extra context and pricing info.

When I saw the big enterpricey involvement my BigMCAD BS Alarm Bells went off.

I’m familiar enough with the industry to know this smelled ‘fischig’. They are doing the typical ‘switch cost strategy’ of all big MCAD companies to convince automotive customers to switch. They priced it under 50% of Alias Surface subscription, and that gives plenty of room for PowerPoint slides to justify potential savings over time by switching.

Awesome business move for them, their user will end up with a better product than Alias in many ways, and this also helps the Rhino ecosystem. Yet Kajto is too rich for the rest of us, non-enterprise workers.

So let’s put that pricey thing away and let’s get back to talking about what Rhino can do better, and @John_Brock, do not worry: whatever you are building it will not be competing with Kajto, since most of us ain’t buying it no matter what.

BTW, every move from every other CAD company reminds me how much I love you guys at Rhino, no matter how much you drive me crazy sometimes. Thank you for being awesome and being there for us, the small users without enough Kajones.

Best,

G

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Some control point modification options with ability to clean up wobbly rows…

I won’t torture you with the full ICEM tour (not sure I know it anyway…!!) but I will have a sleep before attempting the match surface command…see you tomorrow :grin:

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I’d like just that simple UV indicator on the surface!

-Pascal

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If I had a dollar for every time I used a command like “ChangeDegree” and then realized I got the direction wrong, had to undo and redo…

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VSR has brought me spiritual soothing. Every time I make a refined and smooth surface with ease and comfort, it is a spiritual treatment. So I really can’t leave rhino with VSR included. Mcneel is too arrogant, they don’t understand the significance of these tools.

… And clicking on the N indicator quickly changes the surface normal direction. :slight_smile:

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Oi… I don’t inow if I’d like that - clicking on stuff is just too common a thing in Rhino, I bet it would make people crazy, flipping by mistake. Some stuff needs to be more deliberate.

-Pascal

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Rhino’s curved surface resembles that of a very clever elementary school student who thinks he has all the knowledge of the world.

If the draft analysis tool was appropriated to allow the user to specify alternating bands at a user defined angular interval, then that is almost static light lines/isophotes as far as I understand? We can already specify the line of draw via a CP or view, so if the tool also had a gum ball type modifier the user could interactively set the lines based on the geometry that is being checked. I found the glsl draft shader file in solidworks and mucked around with it to get something similar to what I have described here. The weakness is solidworks display and analysis mesh controls, always too coarse.

Hi
In addition to the control point command in Icem, I would like to comment a very interesting functionality integrated in situ, which is the possibility to change the degree of a surface by pointing at the surface row (U or V) and then pressing the desired number in the keyboard.

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Yes, very helpful!
+1 from me.

Lots of guys whining about Rhino UI but look at the ControlPoint (Icem?) interface. Reminds me Win95.

You don’t use ICEM for the interface…

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But if you pay tons of money, decent interface is something easiest to fix, or so the whiners say :wink:

The point of this example is to show the practicality of this function, that is what we want to focus on.

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Indicriminately calling anybody criticizing the UI of Rhino a “whiner” doesn’t make you appear as mature or intelligent as you think it does.

Rhino users click on certain GUI elements for a reason. The N indicator is pretty much self-explanatory since it sits above the positive face direction of a surface, hence it changes its orientation upon flipping the direction. :slight_smile: One could immediately tell if the direction is to the desired side. Also, you can make the N indicator require a double-click to register flipping the surface direction, while a single click will do nothing to prevent accidental flipping. :wink:

P.S. Lets not forget that Rhino lets you move an object or a control point upon selecting it, which is super risky and unwanted, because it leads to accidental modification of the object’s position or the structure of a surface. Still, this feature exists. :slight_smile: Luckily, it could be turned off by requiring a pre-selection of the object or control point before being able to move it.

Surface matching - this one has many options so is a bit difficult to explain but I’ve done my best to pick out the important/useful items that I use a lot.

If anything is unclear I can try to explain further…

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The desire would be to have at least these two tools in Rhino that work in a similar way to those of Icem Surf or Alias: Match srf and Blend surface. At least these two.

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I also would add regarding to the icem matching tool (great explanation Rob), that:(in VSR also was possible If I am not mistaken):

Moreover, there is the possibility to add spans (or segmentation in icem) to reach the required matching condition.

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