Unable to open V7 files in WIP

Serengeti (Rhino WIP)
1

Was hoping to open some V7 files in WIP and I am unable to. I’ve noticed that files in which I do not have layout pages seem to open, files with layout pages do not – and I’ve opened in the past from an earlier version of the WIP.

Thanks,

jvm

SYSTEM INFO:

Rhino 7 SR29 2023-4-17 (Rhino 7, 7.29.23107.03001, Git hash:master @ 5f05ef3a2eea3d910c4c2fb79ccc75b413d33ca7)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-04-17
License details: Cloud Zoo

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 63Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [61% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: AMD Radeon™ Graphics (AMD) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 9-28-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 4-8-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 531.61
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-8-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3161
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\ProRender\1.0.1.5\ProRender.Windows.rhp “ProRender” 1.0.1.5
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\rhinopbrmaterial\1.1.4+v6.16\RhinoPbrMaterial.rhp “RhinoPbrMaterial” 1.1.2.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\IntelDenoiser\0.6.4\IntelDenoiser.Windows.rhp “IntelDenoiser.Windows” 0.6.4.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\Walkie\4.14.0.0\Walkie.rhp “Walkie” 4.14.0.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Bella (813de3fb-18eb-405f-bfcd-b0b4d3da91fb)\22.3.0.0\bella_rhino.rhp “Bella” 22.3.0.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot11RhinoPlugin (55124e8a-aa81-4be8-8e12-9f452c473970)\1.0.0.0\KeyShot11RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot11RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot11RhinoPlugin” 1.0.0.0
C:\Program Files\Next Limit\Maxwell for Rhino\maxwell_rhino_7.rhp “Maxwell for Rhino” 5.2.6.3
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\raytraced-blend-material\1.6.7891.23645\RaytracedBlendMaterial.rhp “RaytracedBlendMaterial” 1.6.7891.23645
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\ColorPicker\6.0.0\ColorPicker.rhp “ColorPicker”
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\AMDDenoiser\0.5.3\AMDDenoiser.Windows.rhp “AMDDenoiser.Windows” 0.5.3.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\raytraced-materials\0.1.5+v7.4\RaytracedMaterials.rhp “Raytraced Materials” 0.1.5.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SubstanceImporter\2.0.3\Substance.Win.rhp “SubstanceImporter” 2.0.3.0
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\KeyShot10RhinoPlugin (ccedd9da-83b9-429a-aec5-8ec90b85fe67)\1.2.0.0\KeyShot10RhinoPlugin\Rhino 7\KeyShot10RhinoPlugin.rhp “KeyShot10RhinoPlugin” 1.2.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.29.23107.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.29.23107.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.29.23107.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.29.23107.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 7.29.23107.3001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Users\jvanm\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\packages\7.0\SectionTools\2021.4.30.511\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

2

What do you mean by “unable to open?” What happens?

See if disabling all those add-on plugins helps.

3

Hi jvm,

Which version of the WIP are you running? I just tried bringing a noddy R7 file with a layout into 8.0.23136.12095, 2023-05-16 and it loaded ok. Could you post a file that fails for you?

Regards
Jeremy

4

Hi Jim and Jeremy.

Downloaded latest WIP and installed. When opening a file (rather large by my standards 1+ gig and 180+ or so page layouts), when loading, the wheel just spins, never opening. A smaller file, with about 50 page layouts, just spins as well.

I’ve opened the smaller file with earlier WIP, about 9 mos ago, no issue – same plugins as currently installed. Of course, I can remove the plugins.

When opening on V7, wheel will spin but opens in about a minute.

jvm

5

Further, disabled the non-Rhino plugins and it still does not load files. To be specific, the program opens and I get the Rhino command line, everything I would expect, but it doesn’t load the file, I get a spinning wheel.

This isn’t urgent since I’m able to open in V7, but there does appear to be an issue opening in the WIP.

Here’s the WIP version I’m running.

Work In Progress
(8.0.23136.12095, 2023-05-16)

Updated System info:

Rhino 8 SR0 2023-5-16 (Rhino WIP, 8.0.23136.12095, Git hash:master @ 169a2fb7efa6d6e17271d883a1aee11766bbdab4)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-05-16
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 2023-06-30

Windows 11 (10.0.22621 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 63Gb)

Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [61% battery remaining]

Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: AMD Radeon™ Graphics (AMD) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 9-28-2022 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
- Secondary monitor attached to adapter port #1
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 16GB, Driver date: 4-8-2023 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 531.61
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)

Anti-alias mode: 8x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 4-8-2023
Driver Version: 31.0.15.3161
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 16 GB

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoRoslyn.rhp “RhinoRoslyn” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\RhinoCode\RhinoCPython.rhp “RhinoCPython” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\ConstraintsUI.rhp “Constraints UI” 8.0.23136.12095
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8 WIP\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”

6

Hi Jim -

Please upload the smaller file through Rhino - Upload to Support so that we can take a closer look at this. Make sure to copy the URL to this thread in the comments field on that page.
Thanks,
-wim

7

Hey Wim, uploading file to McNeel. Thanks for taking a look at it.

Best,

jvm

8

Hi Wim. Okay I walked away and let the smaller file continue loading and it finally opened – took 25 minutes. I suppose the much larger file will take considerably longer.

In any event, that’s way too long to load a file.

jvm