I have noticed that when moving the mouse within viewports, the scrolling of the content does not occur smoothly, but exhibits discontinuous and jerky movements. This issue occurs regardless of the presence of geometries or objects within the viewport, as it manifests even with an empty document.
Macbook Pro M3 Max
Anybody could help to resolve?
Thx
hi @didattica.online.25 pls run _SystemInfo in Rhino and post back the results.
There are currently some issues with Rhino for Mac that show a significant built up of delay after opening many documents, even after they have been closed.
Do you see this behavior right away after you started Rhino?
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I haven’t noticed if this happens immediately, but I’ve just restarted Rhino and the problem has disappeared, so I can presume the problem appears after documents have been opened for some time. However, I’ve noticed it happens independently of whether the documents are light or heavy.
hi @didattica.online.25 I presume you are seeing the same as mentioned in this YT:
RH-82080 Rhino becomes slow after multiple documents have been opened
it seem similar, but to me happened with just 3 very light files (1 with a small 3d object, 2 with 2D objects).
Now I’ll try to leave them opened for sometimes and I’ll see later what happened.
Btw Is this problem on the way to be resolved?
thx!
The linked YouTrack issue is set to In Progress - meaning it is being worked on.
Good! Thx
sorry for the stupid question, but I’m pretty new to that 
…this problem was also present on my Rhino7 on Macbook Pro 2014 with Intel chip.
When I left Rhino opened for sometimes it became very very slow and laggy
RH-82080 is fixed in Rhino 8 Service Release 9
Hi Dan,
sorry for the late reply and thanks for the solution.
Meanwhile I’ve upgrade my Mac with a Macbook Pro M3 Max and I noticed that I still have more or less the same issue: when I pan or move camera by mouse in the viewports the movement is not smooth but lags a bit. No matter how many docs are opened nor opened time.
By the way, I’ve just noticed is lagging also the floating window of SystemInfo
see the attached videos
Thanks a lot
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@didattica.online.25 any chance you can send the file that shows that behavior?
If posssible also run _Reset, click the “save settings for support” and send the resulting zip along,
thanks!
i also noticed this issue, it is very annoying. it does not happen on new files, but as soon as you work on it longer introduce more geometry, or maybe its materials, but at some point the lags become very difficult to handle
it has probably nothing to do with how many files are open but rather which content the file has, i just wildly state that it feels like a memory issue, like data on the ssd is being frequented rather than the ram, but again just a wild guess.
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Here we are: 3DM file with the attached image, the requested ZIP file, and an additional video showing that the floating windows also lag. 
RhinoSettingsForSupport.zip (87.0 KB)
L05_forma-subd.3dm (274.8 KB)
I can definitely not see any of the lag you are showing. Looking again at your Systeminfo I noticed:
Do you see any difference when nothing is connected to your Mac?
Actually, I don’t have anything connected via USB to my Mac. I’m just using a Bluetooth Logitech mouse.
As for the linked video, it shows that even the floating window snaps when I move the mouse. Don’t you see it?