Rhino Crashes When Opening Grasshopper

My rhino starts to crash when trying to open grasshopper. I cannot even open grasshopper and it will only get to about 3% before it crashes the entire rhino app. I restarted my computer, un downloaded and re downloaded rhino and still nothing works. I have used grasshopper many times before this and I don’t know why.

I tried to download tttoolbox which is for windows and it downloaded and whenever it gets to that in the loading bar for grasshopper it crashes. I deleted it but grasshopper still tries to pull it and it crashes.

I’m on MacOS Version 7 (7.24.22283.10362, 2022-10-10).

  • I downloaded tttoolbox-2030.gha and copied it to my Grasshopper Components folder.
  • Rhino crashes as soon as Grasshopper Tries to load TTToolbox.
  • Deleted TTToolbox from my Grasshopper Components folder and everything is back to normal.

How did you delete it? Grasshopper should not be trying to load it if it’s not in your Components folder.

-Kevin

Same here grasshopper crashes on opening mac os 12.6.3 iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) Fresh install makes no difference latest version of rhino 7

Are you using the latest tttoolbox?

No not using anything can’t even open grasshopper without it crashing, i can only use it via parallels on windows side

please open Rhino and type SystemInfo in the command line and paste the results here.

Thanks

Rhino 7 SR27 2023-2-1 (Rhino 7, 7.27.23032.13002, Git hash:master @ 4a0030c0d354560df03764f4f49ecc5d119e5118)
License type: Commercial, build 2023-02-01
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 12.6.3 (Build 21G419) (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: iMac18,3
Language: en-GB (MacOS default)

AMD Radeon Pro 580 OpenGL Engine (OpenGL ver:4.1 ATI-4.8.101)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High

Vendor Name: ATI Technologies Inc.
Render version: 4.1
Shading Language: 4.10
Maximum Texture size: 16384 x 16384
Z-Buffer depth: n/a
Maximum Viewport size: 16384 x 16384
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Graphics: Radeon Pro 580
Displays: iMac (217dpi 2x), HP 27f (82dpi 1x)

Graphics processors
Radeon Pro 580 (8 GB)
iMac (2560 x 1440)
HP 27f (1920 x 1080 @ 60.00Hz)

USB devices
Realtek: USB 10/100/1000 LAN
Samsung M3 Portable: Samsung M3 Portable
VIA Labs, Inc.: USB2.0 Hub
Broadcom Corp.: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Hewlett-Packard: HP LaserJet M402n
Apple Inc.: Apple MagSafe Charger

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
com.parallels.kext.hypervisor (15.1.5 47309) E58BB0E4-8BF0-3734-AFEB-45B878C474C3
com.parallels.kext.netbridge (15.1.5 47309) 87C1BA53-76C0-360B-AE9D-FF2471FA4915
com.parallels.kext.vnic (15.1.5 47309) E7D58CD0-47AE-36DF-8289-3E550B76CCCB
com.parallels.kext.usbconnect (15.1.5 47309) B61070B1-5096-3B17-ADA1-D0EB011D4AB1

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCloudKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreData.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftContacts.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNetwork.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomePubSub.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPrivate_BiomeStreams.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/DatasmithRhino7.rhp/DatasmithFacadeCSharp.dylib
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot10Rhino7Plugin.rhp/libkeyshot_rhino_plugin.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 4.27.2.0
/Users/jc/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/KeyShot10Rhino7Plugin.rhp “KeyShot10RhinoPlugin” 1.2.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/SolidTools.rhp “SolidTools” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 7.27.23032.1002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 7.27.23032.13002
/Applications/Rhino 7.app/Contents/PlugIns/RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render” 7.27.23032.1002

You have several 3rd party plugins, lets start by removing those then test before adding each one back in separately.

That didn’t work it maybe a grasshopper plugin perhaps from previous installation ?

What plugins are you running?

use the GrasshopperLoadOneByOne to troubleshoot.

My rhino (on macOS) crash when I run grasshopper after installed the latest version of TT Toolbox. With all others plug-in it run correctly.

Same thing happens here.

Also reports of the same behavior on maxOS in the reviews here:

Apparently not compatible with macOS even though the latest version lists “Rhino 7 Mac”.

-Kevin

Just to add this is happening to me as well on my m1 macbook pro 14". TT Toolbox is the cause of the crash. after uninstalling it works

Hi there, I know it is an older thread, but: is there a solution to this problem? Rhino crashes here, too, when I load Grasshopper with TTTools. Works when I remove the plugin. Downloaded the latest and tried again, still crashes. Even tried the WIN version, also crash.
Thanks a lot!

Hi, I also happened to have the same problem with this. Is there any solution for this?

Hi Julia,

Please run SystemInfo in your Rhino command line and paste the results here.

Have you tried starting grasshopper with the GrasshopperLoadOneByOne command?

having the same problem, opening grasshopper and both rhino 8 n GH crashing. mac 32

SystemInfo is always helpful (run via Rhino Command Line)

3rd party plugins are typically the issue (disable via Setting>Plugins for Rhino, GH remove from the folder or try GrasshopperLoadOneByOne and say no to the 3rd party ones)

Rhino 8 SR3 2024-1-9 (Rhino 8, 8.3.24009.15002, Git hash:master @ 3541fa287a013b0f17849f0740f1e43a44031bfc)
License type: Evaluation, build 2024-01-09
License details: Cloud Zoo
Expires on: 4692552-05-15

Apple macOS Version 14.2.1 (Build 23C71) (Physical RAM: 32Gb)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,2
Language: en-GR (MacOS default)
.NET 7.0.0

Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Intel Iris Plus Graphics (1536 MB)
Color LCD (1680 x 1050)

USB devices
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCryptoTokenKit.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreML.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFileProvider.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGLKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGameplayKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetalKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftModelIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSceneKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpriteKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVision.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVideoToolbox.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObservation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftWebKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNaturalLanguage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib
/usr/lib/log/liblog_network.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.3.24009.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.3.24009.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools” 8.3.24009.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.3.24009.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.3.24009.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.3.24009.15002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.3.24009.15002