Hello,
I installed the new rhino 8 - and what is annoying while working with many layers is the “Pop Up” or “Tooltip” which appears whenever I want to work with the layers/ scroll the mouse over the layers name. I am not sure wether this is an error of Rhino 8 or just an attitude/ option (and I don’t know where to turn off)?
The problem is that the information/ Pop Up hides some other layers and that is very annoying if you have to change the settings of the layers very often.
So probably someone has the same problem and can help me ??
Thanks
Michael
At the moment AFAIK all you can do is move the mouse cursor off the panel, or onto any blank area you have below the layer rows. The Tooltip will vanish sharpish.
@wim , may I suggest adding a tickable option Layer Tooltips to the Layer Tools menu so users can choose to have the facility or not?
Hi Jeremy,
thanks for your answer.
That’s the hard way - always tricking around where to move the cursor …
But I am not sure if that’s just a problem of my installation / checked options…
I suspect that it is an attempt to address the difficulty of identifying a layer when looking at columns at the right end of the rows, now that we have even more columns, without making the panel so wide we run short of drawing space.
Personally, I would prefer the ability to lock the name column so it doesn’t scroll sideways, as seen in spreadsheets.
I agree with you, it was better in Rhino 7. I was comparing Rhino 7 and 8 and found something else, and that is that in Rhino 7 the tooltips stay when hovering over different layers, whereas in Rhino 8 the tooltips turn off. I personally find it more user friendly if they just stay once they are on, but it would be good to hear your opinion about this.
I agree this would be useful, I added RH-78923 Layers: provide a way to ‘lock’ certain parts of the table
RH-78924 Layers: provide a way to turn off layer tooltips
In V7 I have no tooltips at all appearing in the layer box when I hover over a layer - IF the entire layer name is visible. If the layer name is long, then the tooltip appears - this is good and expected behavior. Yes, it turns off after about 4-5 seconds here, like all the other tooltips do.
In V8 I have tooltips appearing all the time - even if the entire layer name is visible in the layers panel. And, yes, they do not turn off until you move the mouse away. Plus they’re about two times as “fat” (vertically) as the V7 tooltips.
V7 (for about 5 sec on hover)
V8 (always on when hovering)
Notice also that V7 puts a ... where it cuts off the layer name to indicate there is more. V8 does not.
The V7 behavior is infinitely preferable IMO and I wouldn’t need to turn off tooltips for layers, because they only pop up when needed/desired. So maybe you can change that youtrack to reflect this.
Apparently Dale did not find a good way to see if a layer name is truncated yet, and for now will turn of layer name column tooltips until a solution is found.
thanks, I added RH-78928 Layers: indicate a layer name is truncated
This is indeed an issue (on Windows) that is logged as RH-78262 Tooltips are always 2 rows high
btw I also made this yt: RH-78584 Tooltips appearance
More Tooltip wierdness… When I launch v8, Tooltips do not display. Advanced Options for Tt display makes no difference. If I open v7 while v8 is active, Tt display now in both versions. I can then close v7 and Tt continue to display properly in v8. Tt do not display in Layer list in v8 but do display properly in v7.
Alt-Tab to another app and back works to get them to display. Clicking the title bar or anywhere else in the Rhino window has no effect on Tooltips when first launched.
Please make this issue viewable to the public. Tooltips in the Layers panel are not displaying on my 8.12.24282.7001, 2024-10-08 on Windows.
As what has already been discussed, the 7.37.24107.15001, 2024-04-16 behavior is good: Only display layer names in tooltips that are too long to completely display with their current column width.
- always tricking around where to move the cursor …
