Does anyone knows why rhino 8 crashes when i am trying to copy a block ?
Hi -
Please run the Rhino SystemInfo command and copy-paste the result here.
-wim
It looks like you have narrowed it down to VisualArq?
-wim
Yes something is happening with visualArq. I tested in safe mode and also in normal mode with visualArq disabled.
Rhino 8 SR10 2024-8-15 (Rhino 8, 8.10.24228.13001, Git hash:master @ f4c93f2b85de4dc69b50ed22f1b0d91445724d03)
License type: Educational, build 2024-08-15
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.22631 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 32GB)
.NET 7.0.20
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [79% battery remaining]
Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 630 (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 3-8-2019 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 3 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (NVidia) Memory: 4GB, Driver date: 7-30-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 560.81
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Video pass-through to primary display device
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 7-30-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6081
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 4 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\Vector\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\D5Conv (e0d5e210-02f6-4ee9-a2b0-1675e225d958)\0.10.1.0001\Rhino 7\D5Conv.rhp “D5Converter for Rhino”
C:\ProgramData\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Datasmith Rhino Exporter (d1fdc795-b334-4933-b680-088119cdc6bb)\DatasmithRhino7.rhp “Datasmith Exporter” 4.27.2.0
C:\Program Files\Common Files\McNeel\Rhinoceros\8.0\Plug-ins\TeDAsharp (ce983e9d-72de-4a79-8832-7c374e6e26de)\1.0.8405.22062\TeDaSharp_060.rhp “TeDAsharp” 1.0.8405.22062
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\VisualARQ.rhp “VisualARQ”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Tibidabo\Tibidabo.rhp “Tibidabo”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 7\Plug-ins\Karamba\License\Karamba3D_LicensePlugin_Rhino7.rhp “Karamba3DLicense”
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Legacy Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.10.24228.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Fixed with the update to SR11 RC4
Sorry to reopen this issue, but I’m not super technical with system info. I’m having the same issue: Rhino crashes when attempting to copy blocks. I see the solution is update to SR11 RC4, but I don’t know what that means. System Info below:
Rhino 8 SR16 2025-2-11 (Rhino 8, 8.16.25042.13001, Git hash:master @ d0f731de6fe2c5fdcad78ad80faf154307815f18)
License type: Educational, build 2025-02-11
License details: Cloud Zoo
Windows 11 (10.0.26100 SR0.0) or greater (Physical RAM: 16GB)
.NET 7.0.20
Computer platform: LAPTOP - Plugged in [100% battery remaining]
Hybrid graphics configuration.
Primary display: Intel(R) UHD Graphics (Intel) Memory: 1GB, Driver date: 11-3-2021 (M-D-Y).
> Integrated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Windows Main Display is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
Primary OpenGL: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (NVidia) Memory: 8GB, Driver date: 9-26-2024 (M-D-Y). OpenGL Ver: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 565.90
> Integrated accelerated graphics device with 4 adapter port(s)
- Secondary monitor is laptop’s integrated screen or built-in port
OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
GPU Tessellation is: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On
Graphics level being used: OpenGL 4.6 (primary GPU’s maximum)
Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: High
Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.6
Shading Language: 4.60 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 9-26-2024
Driver Version: 32.0.15.6590
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB
Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
C:\Users\whbro\AppData\Roaming\McNeel\Rhinoceros\7.0\Plug-ins\Lumion LiveSync for Rhino (839d6175-32d1-4ffe-a0a4-b7fb43cf0ff5)\2021.3.25.899\Lumion\Rhino 7.0\LumionPlugin.rhp “Lumion LiveSync for Rhino”
Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoScript.rhp “RhinoScript”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars” 8.16.25042.13001
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 8\Plug-ins\SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools”
Hi whb -
You are running SR 16, so the fix that went into SR 11 is also in the version that you are running. That means that you are likely running into something different.
Is this file-specific or does that also happen when you start a new file from a factory-default template, draw a rectangle, turn that into a block, and “copy” (you’ll also need to be more specific about what, exactly, that means) this block?
-wim
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Gotcha, that makes sense.
In terms of the issue being file specific, based on the scenario you laid out, I’m guessing it might be. I created a new file, made a box, made that box into a block, then copied it with the “Copy” command with no issue. In the file were the issue occurs, blocks that I try to copy via the “Copy” command crash Rhino when I specify the base point (point to copy from) for the copy. As soon as I click to specify that first point, Rhino crashes.
block copy test.3dm (135.9 KB)
I exported one of the blocks that causes the crash to it’s own Rhino file and the behavior persists. As far as I can tell, all blocks cause the crash, but I just chose one to export.
Thanks for that file.
I couldn’t get that to crash Rhino here though.
When Rhino crashes, does the crash reporter dialog come up? If it does, please always send those in as they provide valuable information for the developers. I’m not seeing any such reports from the eMail address that you use here though.
Does disabling that plug-in in the Rhino Plug-in Manager and then restarting Rhino make a difference?
-wim
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Hmm, interesting.
Unfortunately, the crash reporter dialog does not show up; Rhino just spins for a few minutes, then suddenly closes.
I disabled the Lumion plug-in and restarted, but Rhino still crashes when the block is copied.
Hi -
Could you provide a manual dump file from when Rhino is in this just spinning stage? Instructions for creating and sending those can be found here: Manually Creating a Memory Dump (DMP File) from an Unresponsive Rhino for Windows [McNeel Wiki]
-wim
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Roger that, just uploaded the ZIP file through the link you sent. That is one chonker of a file!