Hi Forum,
i’m completely new with Rhino.
I bougth a licence this week and want to learn it.
I often use Sketchup an Vectorworks on Mac.
In Sketchup i use a plugin called “Align Faces” from Eneroth.
Please see:
Can I do this with Rhino too?
Thanks for help!
Greetings from Germany
Tobi
OrientCrvOnSrf command
https://docs.mcneel.com/rhino/7/help/en-us/index.htm#commands/orientonsrf.htm
“Align” is used in Rhino in a different context.
Hi David,
greetings and Thx.
I like the “Align Faces” a lot in SKP,
it is a fast way of modeling.
… so, we would need: OrientSrfOnSrf
in Rhino.
Where can i make Feature Requests?
Greetings
Tobi
OrientSrfOnSrf is already in Rhino. I do not understand “… so, we would need: OrientSrfOnSrf
in Rhino.”
What version of Rhino for Mac do you have?
Hi David,
greetings.
… sorry i’m a newbie
I didn’t check if OrientSrfOnSrf is already in Rhino.
… but it would be cool to have such a command in Rhino
like in my Sketchup example.
Greetings and have a nice weekend
Tobi
Hi Kevin,
greetings and thnx for you idea.
… not really.
OrientOnSrf moves the whole object.
The Sketchup Plugin moves only a specific surface of
an object and orient/project this surface to another surface.
You can see it in the linked video above.
Greetings
Tobi
Yes, thats quite a different operation. The same can be achieved, but I think it would take a couple of steps.
-Kevin
Hi Tobias - are you asking for this in surfaces/polysurfaces in Rhino or for meshes only?
-Pascal
Hi Pascal,
greetings.
I would like to have such an operation to all surfaces,
but mainly to nurbs-based surfaces.
I think such can command can speed up some work.
Greetings from Germany
Tobi
There is _MoveFace with _ToBoundary option. It will however extend the side surfaces different than the Sketchup example.
Hi Gjis,
greetings and thanks.
That’s fantastic!
The option, works a bit different to the SKP solution.
Maybe, Rhino could learn the SKP option also …
Thanks again!
Greetings and have a good start in the week
Tobi
this is the SKP demo from the initial post
to do exactly the same, my guess is, there is no solid-editing in rhino to do this.
but with single surfaces it is possible:
_explode ( the truncated cone)
_extendsrf (the cone-like surface, upper edge)
_split (using the option IP (infinitive plane)
…selected extended surface
…type IP
…Optoin 3 Points
…click 3 points on the neighbouring object to define cutting plane
_delete what you not need
_join (cone-like and bottom surface)
_cap (to close top)
there is a lot of topics in this forum regarding Push Pull editing … maybe also search for this. kind regards - tom
In V8/WIP using infinitePlane’ (“IP”) as the boundary also works, but not in 7 as far as I can see - that lets you move the face to the angled plane without adding new geometry to the file.
But, @Tobias_Kern - all of this is a much different ball of wax with surfaces than in SKP which is dealing with meshes - I would not, at this stage, expect it to work as well in general with surfaces.
-Pascal
Hi,
thanks guys for your effort! I appreciate that much.
I also do this for the Vectorworks community in Germany.
Have a great week.
Tobi
Hi guys,
greetings.
I tried the recommended workflow from Tom_P to solve my “problem”.
It works, but I think it takes too many steps.
In Sketchup, I can do the same with 2-clicks, fast and easy!
Is there an official Rhion-wish-list I can turn to?
Greetings and Merry Xmas
Tobi
Hi Tobias - since skp is a mesh modeler the process is very different - making breps behave in the same way is a different kettle of fish- being able to push and pull on brep faces and get predictable, useful results is on the pile of work being done.
-Pascal
Hi Pascal,
greetings.
Yes, there is a difference between Rhino and SKP.
I think that if a command like "_moveFace " + option “_toBoundary”
exists and works for some modeling cases, then it should also be
possible to have a command for the proposed technique.
… I mean, the video shows not a trivial modelling technique,
but also not rocket-science.
A flat surface (of a solid) reorients (in this case vertical) to a target surface
(of a solid) that is also flat (but angled).
Tom_P described a method to do it, but with a lot of steps in between.
In Sketchup two clicks.
Rhino is more advanced in commands, techniques, whatsoever …
as Sketchup.
I think it would be helpful, having a new command in Rhino
to do such an operation with fewer steps/clicks.
The plugin in Sketchup is written from a former user in Ruby.
As Rhino newbie, I love some things, but other stuff,
I think it is also too complicated (for me as a newbie).
I’m sure that will change with experience.
Greetings and have a nice weekend, and thanks all for your time answering me.
Tobi
dear @Tobias_Kern
I can totally understand your wish / critique. It is always hard to transfer a workflow from one CAD-package to another.
Something I struggle a lot within an educational context.
The sample you provide is a ruled surface, intersected with a planar surface.
quiet simple geometry. But somehow a very special, reduced case.
The workflow you’re searching is extending the rulers to a new plane…
And I totally agree, that this seams simple, and this may raise the question, why it is not possible with a single command…
But from a “Rhino” (“freeform modelling”-) Perspective, all surfaces might be curved like in the screenshot.
Now there are 3 surfaces involved and each surface can be extended with line, arc, smooth - or might be ignored.
The Alignment might be set by touching, best-fit, boundingbox (world or c-plane), minimal enclosed volume, … whatever…
If there would be a command, it should handle all those cases and their combination. nearly impossible… and this is what pascal is talking about in much shorter sentence:
the great thing about rhino:
if you really need this special workflow (extending [ruled surfaces] (Ruled surface - Wikipedia) (only) to a plane (only) ) many, many times
kind regards -tom
