MacRhino 8 crashes with properties command

After trying many things with no luck, I reset Rhino to factory settings and now get this at start-up

Error occurred loading plug-in

Details:

panelType must be derived from MonoMac.AppKit.NSView or Eto.Forms.Controls (Parameter ‘type’)

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RhinoCommon

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at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.RegisterPanel(Guid plugInId, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, Assembly iconAssembly, String iconResourceId, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 47

at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.Register(Guid plugInId, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 94

at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.Register(PlugIn plugIn, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 125

at Rhino.UI.Panels.RegisterPanel(PlugIn plugIn, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkdialog.cs:line 368

at Rhino.UI.Panels.RegisterPanel(PlugIn plugin, Type panelType, String caption, Icon icon) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkdialog.cs:line 407

at GH_CMD.GH_CMD_PLUGIN.OnLoad(String& errorMessage)

at Rhino.PlugIns.PlugIn.InternalOnLoad(Int32 pluginSerialNumber) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkplugin.cs:line 864

Now Rhinoforum thinks I am a new user, so cannot upload sysingo file. What is up with that?

Rhino 8 SR37 2026-10-21 (Rhino 8, 8.37.26294.11002, Git hash:master @ a6592128d921cf5111f81ead500d1035845fda34)
License type: Commercial, build 2026-10-21
License details: Cloud Zoo

Apple macOS Version 26.7.2 (Build 25G332) (Physical RAM: 32GB)
Mac Model Identifier: MacBookPro16,1
Language: en-US (MacOS default)
.NET 10.0.8

Metal GPU Family Apple 0
Metal GPU Family Common 3
Metal GPU Family Mac 2
Graphics processors
Intel UHD Graphics 630 (1536 MB)
AMD Radeon Pro 5500M (8 GB)
Color LCD (1536 x 960 @ 59.00Hz)
HP 727pk (1920 x 1080 @ 60.00Hz)
GPU Vendor: AMD

USB devices
Realtek: USB 10/100/1000 LAN
Genesyslogic: USB_HID_DEVICE
Realtek: HID Device
Genesyslogic: USB_HID_DEVICE
Apple Inc.: Apple T2 Controller
Apple Inc.: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple Inc.: Ambient Light Sensor
Apple Inc.: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple: Headset
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Backlight
Apple: Unnamed Device
Apple Inc.: Touch Bar Display

Bluetooth devices
None

Third party kernel extensions
None

Third party plugins
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObjectiveC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDarwin.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDispatch.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIOKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSystem.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftXPC.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Builtin_float.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_Concurrency.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_DarwinFoundation1.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_StringProcessing.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftos.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDistributed.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftObservation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSynchronization.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAccelerate.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreAudio.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMedia.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetal.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftOSLog.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftQuartzCore.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftUniformTypeIdentifiers.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftVideoToolbox.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsimd.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_DarwinFoundation2.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_DarwinFoundation3.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_RegexParser.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMIDI.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreImage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreLocation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAVFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCompression.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftRegexBuilder.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftNaturalLanguage.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMLCompute.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpatial.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreGraphics.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSwiftOnoneSupport.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftsys_time.dylib
/usr/lib/usd/libusd_ms.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswift_errno.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftIntents.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCoreMediaIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftCallKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftPassKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftAppleArchive.dylib
/usr/lib/updaters/libAppleTconUARPUpdater.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftDemangle.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGLKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMetalKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftModelIO.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSceneKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftExtensionFoundation.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftGameplayKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftSpriteKit.dylib
/usr/lib/swift/libswiftMapKit.dylib

Rhino plugins that do not ship with Rhino
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/MacPlugIns/Grasshopper/Libraries/GeometryGym/ggRhinoIFC.rhp “ggRhinoIFC” 1.4.11.0
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/CommandTracker/8.0.0/CommandTracker.rhp “CommandTracker” 8.0.0.0
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/rhinopbrmaterial/1.1.4+v6.16/RhinoPbrMaterial.rhp “RhinoPbrMaterial” 1.1.2.0
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/AMDDenoiser/0.5.3/AMDDenoiser.Mac.rhp “AMDDenoiser.Mac” 1.0.0.0
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/byRhinoGadget/1.6.2/byRhinoGadget.rhp “byRhinoGadget” 1.6.2.0
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/Bullant/26.9.18.8/bullant.rhp “bullant” 26.9.18.8
/Users/mattblake/Library/Application Support/McNeel/Rhinoceros/packages/8.0/RhinoFileVersion/7.0.8486/RhinoFileVersion.rhp “Rhino 3DM File Version” 0.0.0.0

Rhino plugins that ship with Rhino
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhMaterialEditor.framework “Renderer Development Kit” 8.37.26294.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/Commands.rhp “Commands” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots” 8.37.26294.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RDK_EtoUI.rhp “RDK_EtoUI” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/MeshCommands.rhp “MeshCommands” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoRenderCycles.rhp “Rhino Render” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/SectionTools.rhp “SectionTools” 8.37.26294.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/Displacement.rhp “Displacement” 8.37.26294.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/PlugIns/PanelingTools.rhp “PanelingTools” 8.37.26294.1002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper” 8.37.26294.11002
/Applications/Rhino 8.app/Contents/Frameworks/RhCore.framework/Resources/ManagedPlugIns/RhinoCodePlugin.rhp “RhinoCodePlugin” 8.37.26294.11002

have you tried disabling 3rd party plugins?

Disabling plugins that “did not ship with Rhino” stops the crash (so far). Then added back in the McNeal plugins that did not ship - still working fine. But, still have an annoying plugin loading error at startup: (Maybe artifact of my obsolete Intel MacBook Pro???)

Error occurred loading plug-in

Details:

panelType must be derived from MonoMac.AppKit.NSView or Eto.Forms.Controls (Parameter ‘type’)

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RhinoCommon

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at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.RegisterPanel(Guid plugInId, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, Assembly iconAssembly, String iconResourceId, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 47

at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.Register(Guid plugInId, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 94

at Rhino.UI.PanelSystem.Register(PlugIn plugIn, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkpanels.cs:line 125

at Rhino.UI.Panels.RegisterPanel(PlugIn plugIn, Type type, String caption, Icon icon, PanelType panelType) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkdialog.cs:line 368

at Rhino.UI.Panels.RegisterPanel(PlugIn plugin, Type panelType, String caption, Icon icon) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkdialog.cs:line 407

at GH_CMD.GH_CMD_PLUGIN.OnLoad(String& errorMessage)

at Rhino.PlugIns.PlugIn.InternalOnLoad(Int32 pluginSerialNumber) in /Users/bozo/TeamCity/buildAgent/work/96e64af5b81c6f85/src4/DotNetSDK/rhinocommon/dotnet/rhino/rhinosdkplugin.cs:line 864

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Are you running this plugin? GH_CMD / Monkey on Food4Rhino (Monkey | Food4Rhino)

No. Should I be?

I noticed a “grasshoppercmd v6.0” package installed, which apparently provides a similar capability as “monkey”. I uninstalled that package and the local error went away.

Does that make sense?

… “load error”