Leaders, dimensions and history


#1

Hi we are having a real problem here in V6 with dimensions and leaders in Layouts getting screwed up when underlying geometry (I guess that they are linked to) changing.

Right clicking on ‘History’ says history is turned off but the dimensions and geometry still seem linked. Is there a way to turn history off ‘more’? It’s frustrating to get a drawing near completion, fuss with a surface or some lines in model space then discover on printing that dimensions or leaders have flown way off the page.

Eric


Turn off dimension history?
#2

Hi,

Here is an example of 2 leaders that jumped off the sheet after editing something in model space (not sure what). This is in Rhino 6 btw if this not in the right forum.

Moving the leaders back where they belong gives the “History Broken” error msg.


(John Brock) #3

Dimensions in V6 are always “history enabled”. There is no way currently to turn it off.

That said, I don’t see how disabling history would fix this issue.
Without it, then every tweak of model geometry would cause dimensions in the model or a layout to be “dumb” and not move with the geometry change.


#4

I’ve had a lot of annotations ‘moving’ when creating a detail window in layouts :frowning:


#5

Hi John,

Right now we’re thinking ‘dumb’ dimensions would be preferable.

Eric


(John Brock) #6

Why? What would that solve?
Wouldn’t the “cure” be worse than the “disease”?

I’m trying to understand the real underlying problem.


#7

We didn’t have problems working in V5 which didn’t have the dimensions linked. Now we have problems.

Eric


(John Brock) #8

The changes to annotations between V5 and V6 were so profound, turning off history is not the likely fix.

What I really need is a small sample file and set of steps to follow that exhibit this problem.
I know that’s going to be hard to nail down, but it’s very likely the actual problem and resulting fix are not history related.


#9

Completely agree, it’s a great feature if it is dependable. I’ll work on nailing down an example.

Eric


#10

Hi John, here is an example of the leader issue.

Thanks,

Ericloose leader example.3dm (46.7 KB)


(John Brock) #11

Perfect!
I can repeat it.
Thanks

https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-45627


(John Brock) #12

The developer thinks it’s most likely a problem with History trying to update the leader when the curve changes.


(John Brock) #13

@eej
I just tried this in today’s in-house build which is becoming SR5, and the problem is gone.
Whatever was causing this has already been fixed.