Layout printing in R8... come on

Ok, so we are finally giving R8 a go for pro work.

And here is why it feels like you are still in Beta:

  • Setting up a layout does not choose RhinoPDF as default.
  • When printing the first layout the paper size is ignored and I feel like I have done somthing wrong.

What is driving this behaviour? Is it a bug? Isn’t it obvious that when I choos to make a layout in A3 with RhinoPDF as the printer that the default print dialog should just pick those settings?

It makes me wonder if this is something local, or that nobody has reported this before, and the latter is difficult to believe. Please help me help you sort this out. It happens on multiple machines.

edit:
And Raser is default…, chaning to vector gives a different zoom…But why is print size “custom”?
(Yes I did use raster and 512x512 pixels for a SVG print in another file, but that has nothing to do with this file and this layouts setting, so why is it remembered?)

Use Layout Page Size should be default for all new documents IMO. And remembereing 10 ppcm from last print in last document isn’t good, this should only be remembered WITHIN the document. How else can a colleague print with the same settings? This is really wrong on many levels IMO, please look into it and see if it is consistent with your behaviour, and please argue for why the current implementation is better, because I am more than willing to adapt if my predetermined opinions are wrong. (Might sound strange because I come across hard, but I countless episodes of prints going wrong with R6 and R7 so I REALLY want to see this fixed soon :slight_smile: )

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And the one thing it doesn’t remember is the output folder… of all things to rembember this is the one you should have gotten right :slight_smile: On a per document setting of course!

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For the Page size try this:

Rhino PDF-Default is true for me

Remember last folder works for me too

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I agree and we should probably change our defaults.

That is true, but having “None” as the printer essentially does the same thing. The printer selection is there so you can select paper sizes that the printer supports. In the case of “None” and “Rhino PDF” this doesn’t apply because there is no physical machine involved. I can change the default to “Rhino PDF”, but does this actually do anything for you?

This is something I think we can remedy with a small change. If the “Use Layout Page Size” checkbox were checked, then you would have gotten the correct page output size. Some other controls would be disabled which may be confusing, but hopefully not too bad.
https://mcneel.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/RH-92040/Use-Layout-Page-Size-default-as-true

2 posts were split to a new topic: Print Scale Message - Possible Bug?

Can you send me a sample so I can try this myself? Thanks

I understand that as a “programmer”, but for me as a “user” that does not make sense.

My logic then is:
I draw, I want to set up a Layout and choose the default printer for this layout and the paper size for the layout. Now this is DONE.

So when I want to print I expect the print dialog to by default use these settings that I have already chosen and have “Use Layout Page Size” on by default for all new documents and I expect that this setting will follow the document if I change it in the future.

To me as a user this is kind of the entire point with a layout, it has fixed paper size and dimensions, it is our way of taking things out of 3D space into the real world.

The point here is that Rhino should not rember my strange tweaking between documents, but only within the document, so if somebody else wants to print stuff from it they get the same result as I who sat it up did. (This is key for predictability and productivity)

So I trust that if you have that in mind you will not tweak anything that breaks that philosophy :slight_smile:

PS! Did you manage to replicate the different zoom levels for Raster vs Vector? That one baffled me a bit.

RH-92040 is fixed in Rhino 8 Service Release 29 Release Candidate