Is this true?

I know you all like to keep us honest. We highly value your feedback, but it is just as important that you give others the same accurate information about Rhino.

Here is one place that a few of you might want to keep an eye on and keep honest.

Thanks for the help,

  • Bob

Who the f… wrote that article? Do we get to know that info?

As a general rule you don’t know, many people write under alias: see the history of the page. But the nice thing is, you can edit this yourself and write what you think is the truth.

It could be any one or multiple people. They do have an edit history tab, so you can see the username. On that same page, you can also direct message the user if you want to. I have heard about the ability to check the contributors IP address, but I didn’t see that where I looked.

The IP-look-up has been used, for example, to embarrass the poster at company A who is slamming Company B. You can then tell they wrote it from the Company A headquarters… oops!

It looks like the Shortcomings were added by misterkimono, who might have posted on the old web Rhino forum under a similar handle.

I have gone back and forth on if the right thing to do would be to reedit the page to just remove the shortcomings section, which would be easy, but it seems the most fair and comprehensive thing would be to explain the strengths and weaknesses in a much more comprehensive fashion, which of course finding the time to do that is the issue. But as it is, it is currently quite one sided. The stability thing can go though, cause that is just bull.

@misterkimono is also on Discourse. Maybe he can confirm he is using the same handle on Wikipedia.

The History of Rhino
Summary: A few interesting dates
May 92 - First meeting with AG. Applied Geometry (AG) came to us for assistance in integrating their
AGLib, NURBs geometry library, in AutoCAD. AG customers included Alias Research, Spatial, Honda, and
Tecnomatix
Jul 92 - First prototype in AutoCAD after about 3 days of work.
Nov 92 - McNeel/AG agreement to develop AccuModel, NURBs modeling for AutoCAD. McNeel would do the
marketing and AG would do all the development. McNeel would provideAutoCAD development support as
needed.
Nov 92 - Michael Gibson hired as an intern. He brought Sculptura, a mesh modeler that he had done as a class
project.
Mar 93 - Sculptura released.
Mar 93 - McNeel takes over as the lead on the AccuModel development.
Jul 93 - First prototype of Sculptura 2 ready for NURBs.
Nov 93 - Sculptura 2 nicknamed RhinoCeros.
Jan 94 - New McNeel/AG agreement where McNeel was licensing AGLib from AG and AG would provide the
needed AGLib enhancements and maintenace.
Apr 94 - Rhino beta released on the Graphic Alternative BBS. This was our first version of a public beta
program.
May 94 - Dr Dale Lear hired from AG. We had found that we needed geometry expertise in house in order to
develop the functionality and usability needed by our clients.
May 94 - Alias Research agrees to purchase AG. Alias was AGs largest customer and they felt that one of their
advantages was the geometry technology.
May 94 - First commercial products completed using AccuModel. Ed Monk & Son Navel Architect released an 82
foot sports fishing boat.
Jul 94 - Geometry development begins in earnest. Alias didnt seem to be interested in the geometry library
business.
Aug 94 - Sculptura renamed RhinoCeros after it was determined that we would not be able to reslove the
trademark problems with AccuModel.
Aug 94 - Private showing of Rhino at SIGGRAPH.
Nov 94 - Sale of AG to Alias final.
Mar 95 - McNeel provides Alias with first installment of geometry technology.
Jun 95 - Alias purchased by Silicon Graphics.
Jun 95 - McNeel receives the last update of AGLib.
May 97 - Last build of AccuModel for AutoCAD. As the Rhino product progressed we decided that it would be
better to focus on the Windows version.
Sep 97 - 50,000 beta sites and growing fast without any promotional effort on our part.
Jul 98 - 100,000 beta sites.
Jul 98 - Announced Oct release at SIGGRAPH.
Oct 98 - Release Rhino version 1.0.
Dec 98 - First 5,000 shipped.
Jan 99 - Japanese version released.
Jan 99 - First public beta of 1.1 released.
Jan 99 - First European reseller meeting in Barcelona.
Mar 99 - First third party book on Rhino published.
May 99 - Korean version ships.
Aug 00 - First public beta of 2.0 and Flamingo released.
Sep 01 - Shipping Rhino 2.0.
Nov 01 - Shipping Flamingo.
Nov 01 - Inside RhinoCeros published
Jan 03 - Shipping Rhino 3.0Jan 03 - Shipping Flamingo 1.1
Jul 03 - Shipping Penguin 1.0
Jul 04 - Shipping Bongo 1.0
Jan 07 - Shipping Rhino 4.0
Jan 08 - Shipping Penguin 2.0
Jul 08 - Shipping Flamingo 2.0
Feb 09 - Shipping Brazil for Rhino

History of Rhinoceros.pdf (18.8 KB)

This is also in the Rhino Wiki… Although there seem to be things that are missing from both…

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Why is there even a section called “Shortcomings”? Mitch did a good job of cleaning it up, but still, why even have that? I went to Solidworks’ page to see if there was a heading called “Shortcomings” where it mentions it doesn’t work like Rhino. :smile:

I don’t believe that the lack of parametics is a shortcoming. In the hands of an experienced user, Rhino can outshine other products in many ways. I wouldn’t pound a nail in with a screwdriver, not would I use a hammer to turn a screw. That doesn’t mean that either tool is deficient because it doesn’t perform both functions.

Dan

@DanBayn I just finished “editing” that section… Please feel free to edit my edits, and add things!! --Mitch

My first venture into editing Wikipedia! :smiley:

Mine too! :wave:

the page is under quite some editing…

frustrating to see this type of misinformation

-Willem

Welcome to internet Willem :wink:

Well, I can edit as well as he can… We’ll see how long this lasts. --Mitch

hehehe.

I think the page and info would benefit if you replaced this image with a more professional one:

One from Industrial design and one from architecture should probably do Rhino more justice.

Yeah, I agree and we need to populate that page with more images and more info. Need to have images that are free to publish though…

How free would these be?
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery

https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/5/47097
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/5/37934
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/5/43213
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/5/48829
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/5/46449

https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/4/47594
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/4/47556
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/4/39532

https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/3/38891
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/3/39693
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/6/48285
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/6/48147
https://www.rhino3d.com/gallery/6/33383

maybe we can agree on a shortlist with about 5 images representing the full range Rhino can offer.

-Willem

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