"Document User Text" tab doesn't open

“Document User Text” tab doesn’t open :

It opens sometimes though

Out of curiosity what happens when you tear it off or close the other tabs?

Does Document panel display from Options - Document User Text?

When I tear it out, it’s blank.
I also have issues with the object properties being blank when selecting an object.

Can you paste the system info here from the Help - System Information menu?


Sure thing :

Rhino 6 SR5 2018-5-29 (Rhino 6, 6.5.18149.14421, Git hash:master @ 39e73a6a93c18c92e40c05cb323c990246a30569)
Licence type: Commercial, build 2018-05-29
License details: Cloud Zoo. In use by: Olivier Suire ()

Windows 10.0 SR0.0 or greater (Physical RAM: 16Gb)
Machine name: DESKTOP-SM3T5UI

GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2 (OpenGL ver:4.5.0 NVIDIA 385.28)

OpenGL Settings
Safe mode: Off
Use accelerated hardware modes: On
Redraw scene when viewports are exposed: On

Anti-alias mode: 4x
Mip Map Filtering: Linear
Anisotropic Filtering Mode: Height

Vendor Name: NVIDIA Corporation
Render version: 4.5
Shading Language: 4.50 NVIDIA
Driver Date: 8-9-2017
Driver Version:
Maximum Texture size: 32768 x 32768
Z-Buffer depth: 24 bits
Maximum Viewport size: 32768 x 32768
Total Video Memory: 8 GB

C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Commands.rhp “Commands”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk.rhp “Renderer Development Kit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RPC.rhp “RPC”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\AnimationTools.rhp “AnimationTools”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoRender.rhp “Rhino Render”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_etoui.rhp “RDK_EtoUI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\rdk_ui.rhp “Renderer Development Kit UI”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\NamedSnapshots.rhp “Snapshots”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\IronPython\RhinoDLR_Python.rhp “IronPython”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\RhinoCycles.rhp “RhinoCycles”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\GrasshopperPlugin.rhp “Grasshopper”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Toolbars\Toolbars.rhp “Toolbars”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\3dxrhino.rhp “3Dconnexion 3D Mouse”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\BlockEdit.rhp “BlockEdit”
C:\Program Files\Rhino 6\Plug-ins\Displacement.rhp “Displacement”

Thanks whats your windows 10 version number?


Here’s what it looks like when you tear the tab out :

The (6.6.18156.11421, 06/05/2018) update does not fix this problem.

Hello - so far here we don’t see this, (1803 as well, here) I’m checking to see if we’ve got a ‘home’ version installed anyplace.


Hi McNeel persons,

I gave you my complete DNA sequence, so is there a chance that you can make the Rhino V6 interface work for me ?
Now, it’s the Leader properties that doesn’t display :

It’s been the same old interface since the early 90ies, don’t you think it should work flawlessly all the time by now ?

More leader fun ; here’s how leaders get treated when they come from a V5 file :

@Trav , the problem persists in Version 6 SR6 (6.6.18163.7531, 06/12/2018).

Same thing for text properties, and also attributes.
General properties work more consistently, so I doubt it is related to my specific system.

Is this being investigated at all ?

The problem is still here in (6.6.18177.16151, 06/26/2018)
The user text tab either works or is blank.

Could someone wake up a developper and fix this ?

@pascal and @Trav :

Apart from the User Texts, this issue also affects :
-The Dot properties and dialog window
-The Text properties and dialog window
-The Text Objects properties and dialog window

In short : it makes using V6 a huge PITA.

Would you mind to investigate ?

@osuire it appears you’re having issues with panels made using ETO.

I am pinging @JohnM to see if he can shed some light on the panel framework.


Yeah : too much Earned Time Off, and we are left with a CAD software that can’t edit texts.

@ Trav @pascal

I realize that the dialog for “Insert” falls in the same category.
Get that : I can’t insert blocks !

What is going on ? Do you guys just don’t give a f… that the Rhino interface is screwed up or what ?

RH-48508 is fixed in the latest Service Release Candidate