Copy / Paste selection Problem


#1

Hi
Using Wenatchee Build 514. Have noticed in this version and it was also happening in a couple of previous versions although can’t give their build numbers, that the copy/cut/paste commands are becoming a bit finicky to use.
I design boats so have some fairly complex models with lots of surfaces and lots of layers to organise. To edit some parts I quite often cut or copy parts out of the main model and paste into a blank drawing to edit rather than turn lots of layers off to clean up the drawing and simplify what I’m trying to edit. To do so I mostly select what I want by right clicking on the appropriate layer, choosing select objects on layer and then copy / paste into the new drawing.
However with build 514 when I select components through this method, the copy and paste dialog, be it through the edit - copy drop down or through command C / X commands are either greyed out or not working.
Doesn’t seem to have been an issue through previous builds
Cheers


(Pascal Golay) #2

Hi Simon, I don’t have a mac to check this on at the moment, but in Windows you can use the Dash version of Hide to accomplish this (this is apart from copy/paste being broken, maybe, as you report). With -Hide, you can hide to a named ‘bucket’ and recall that bucket later, like so -

_Invert _-Hide "Isolate" _Enter

would isolate your selected objects and ‘clear the decks’. When you’ve done editing and want to show all that stuff that used to be there (but not any other stuff that was hidden previously) use

_-Show "Isolate" _Enter

to bring back just that one set of hidden objects, You can have as many namerd ‘buckets’ as you like, though more than two or three might be a bit cumbersome to keep track of. The regular Show command overrrides these buckets and shows everything.

-Pascal


#3

Hi
Good point, and thanks for the hint. Having the model and it’s various component organised into the layers that I do already helps with that along the same lines although a little more time consuming to turn a bunch of layers off in some circumstance and your hint would probably help make that more efficient.
There are times though when I have found it more efficient to work on specific components out of a master model in a clean drawing so I don’t have to sort through a bunch of layers, however well organised they may be, to turn on or off something specific or hide / unhide something. For instance the model I am currently working on has knocking on the door of 200+ layers in it for different areas of the project. Buckets look great though for areas of the project where we do want to show or hide specific areas and that ‘state’ is likely to happen quite often throughout the projects life span so thanks of the tip. I’ll give it a try. Cheers


#4

Hi Simon - another interesting option might be this: hide the object you want to edit, then invert to show just the hidden object in isolation, i.e. all the other stuff gone. Then by using the “ShowSelected”-command you get to see all the hidden stuff, and it lets you pick the objects you need in addition. Enter - and all the stuff except the ones you picked is hidden again. Just thought you would like to know.

Max.


#5

Both of these are VERY slick and help a lot given the fact that the LayerStateManager command (the ability to have sets of Layers predetermined) is not yet active in MacRhino.

One question for @pascal: I see there is a nice prompt to name your -Hide bucket. When one issues the -Show command, it appears that you have to remember the name of your bucket. Is there any way to see a list of your “buckets”? If not, it would be a real treat if there was a drop down list of your existing buckets at that prompt (I’m not sure this is even possible, but how cool would that be!).

~Dave


(Pascal Golay) #6

Hi Dave- the best way to use this, in my opinion, is to only use a few ‘hard coded’ bucket names and include these in the macros - there are three buttons in the Visibility toolbar that have bucket names included in the macro- just A, B and C. My suggested macro for ‘Isolate’ just uses the word Isolate as the bucket name. More than that and I think it gets confusing, myself. So, to answer your question, as far as I recall there is no way to see a list of available hidden buckets.

-Pascal


#7

Sounds good. Many thanks for the tip!

~Dave